AW: QUESTION: Dynamics and Timing Symbols

Sat Mar 2 22:45:46 UTC 2013

People - as Valerie said, it's a dynamic to show a drum beat, not beat an actual drum. However, the angle is correct as one plays with three fingers on a tambor (an African drum held between the knees).  

Charles Butler

chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com

240-764-5748

Clear writing moves business forward.

--- On Sat, 3/2/13, Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE> wrote:

From: Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE>
Subject: AW: QUESTION: Dynamics and Timing Symbols
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Date: Saturday, March 2, 2013, 5:24 PM

Looking at the two
fingers – ouch – wouldn´t it hurt? Just my feeling but I am no drummer ... ;-)) 

Von: SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton

Gesendet: Samstag, 2. März 2013
22:01

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Betreff: Re: QUESTION: Dynamics
and Timing Symbols 

SignWriting List 

March 2, 2013 

Please excuse my delay in answering this question. Thank you, Charles,
for caring about writing and asking questions… Second, I saw that Madson and
perhaps others answered you already on Facebook - and they wrote it well
too...smile…so you are getting plenty of feedback... Thanks to everyone - 

Regarding the Strike symbol in your writing… The drum beat that you are
trying to write below does not actually contact a surface but is mimicking the
feeling of contacting a surface with the drumming movement - So that would not
be written with a Strike Symbol, because the Strike must show contact with
force, and there is no real contact happening…So the Tension Symbol at the end
of the movement, or even the Fast Symbols would be substituted, rather than
using the Strike symbols (if you feel they are necessary - they may not be -
maybe too much detail?)... 

Regarding the Alternating Symbol - no I would not use that either. When
we read a group of arrows with the left and right hands, we always read the
arrows from the Center - Out. So the left and right arrow that are closest to
the center are read first, and then read out one by one - so there is no need
to also write an Alternating Symbol…since the Alternating feeling is already
there if you follow the Center-Out rule... 

So I would write it this way, if we want to write lots of detail
(smile): 

http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=12&sgn=46&sid=3264 

Val ;-) 

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On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote: 

SignWriting List 

February 27, 2013 

Hi Charles - 

Thank you for this question. I will post your question to the
SignWriting List so others can learn too… 

There are three Timing Symbols… as you can see here: 

http://www.signbank.org/iswa/2f7_sg.html 

I will explain in detail next message - 

Val ;-) 

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On Feb 27, 2013, at 2:40 AM, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM> wrote: 

  Thank you, thank you.. 

  Meanwhile

  Take a look at this sign. Do I need the alternating arcs. I've never been
  sure with this as one hand goes up as the other comes down. As there is no
  surface (it's a drum beat) is this the right movement. Should it be ~ 
  instead ?

  Charles Butler

  chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com

  240-764-5748

  Clear writing moves business forward. 

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