[Sw-l] Wrist movements
Valerie Sutton
signwriting at MAC.COM
Sat Feb 24 18:30:01 UTC 2018
SignWriting List
February 24, 2018
Happy Saturday, everyone!
Thank you, Fernando, for the question. And thank you, Adam, for taking time from your busy teaching schedule to answer Fernando's question...your help is always amazing and accurate ;-)
And hi Ingvild!- Thank you for your comment - I am glad you brought up our history together. Thank you for your influence on the development of SignWriting....I only wish you could come visit me again so we could work together again ... I miss you here... but we have good memories of that time...
Nothing has changed since the development at that time, but I suppose it has evolved a little... The symbols are still the same and are relating to an Axis. When the Axis is the forearm for arm rotations, the movement arrows rotate around the line that represents the forearm. The wrist movements also relate to a "line that is representing the wrist (an axis)" and then the movement arrows are on one side of the axis or the other, depending on the direction the fingers take as the wrist stays still and only the hand moves up or down or side to side.
I hope to make videos that are not based on any spoken or signed language, but through mime and graphics, I hope to be able to teach how the body moves and then show a graphic of the symbol that describes that movement. I hope to start with these Wrist Movements, since they seem to be the hardest for everyone.
In the Lessons in SignWriting Textbook, these Axial Movements of both the arm and wrist are explained pages 141-150.
Download PDF of Lessons in SignWriting
http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0116-Lessons-SignWriting.pdf
Here is page 150, that presents the Wrist-Flexing Movement. See attached...
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>> On Feb 24, 2018, at 5:45 AM, Ingvild Roald <iroald at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>> Originally, many years back, I was the one asking for symbols for wrist movements. At the time, the little line were supposed to symbolise the axis and be placed near the wrist . Now I see the sybols used differently and in a more abstract or symbolic way, the line no longer directly being linked to the wrist as the axis of the movement. Personally I find this a little more difficult now, but thing changes and I claim no ownership, I just tell,
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>> Ingvild, Norway
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> On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> I’m not sure exactly how the movement occurs, but I made two gif images putting the pair of images you sent together.
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> Here is how I would these if they were double movements:
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> Adam
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>> On Feb 21, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Fernando UFRGS <fernando.carneiro at UFRGS.BR <mailto:fernando.carneiro at UFRGS.BR>> wrote:
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>> expensive1.jpg <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eVXfZjH5Si1-hvLBDEg88Y_eQu8wscMs/view?usp=drive_web>
>> expensive2.jpg <https://drive.google.com/file/d/14xVTNkZNjPnIznJjE7n2aCKPHvvo4EG_/view?usp=drive_web>
>> radial_deviation.jpg <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XPz3lJDOFLo3NtwisPds_cf3kURz3iBD/view?usp=drive_web>
>> ulnar_deviation.jpg <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h6ckzdWQvhpWFALV6JflMc1i036XslWQ/view?usp=drive_web>
>> Hello my dear friends!
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>> I've been struggling with some wrist movements, such as the Ulnal and Radial Deviations (or Abduction/Adduction of the wrist). These kind of movements occur in the "expensive" sign here in Brazil, which I forwarded to you, attached as images.
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>> I was wondering: since the wrist movements available are for Wrist Flex (and Extension), how do I represent the deviations above?
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>> Best regards,
>> Fernando
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