[Sw-l] Hello from South Korea

[Stephen Slevinski]

Hi Sung-Eun,

Welcome to the SignWriting List.

On 4/11/19 9:26 PM, Dr. Sung-Eun Hong wrote:
>> The NIKL is considering to use SignWriting in their KSL Dictionary. 
>> If this really happens it is expected that SignWriting will play an 
>> important role in the Korean sign language world in the future.

This is great news.  SignWriting is an excellent choice for writing sign 
language.


>> We would like to install SignWriting as a font (which I already did) 
>> and to be able to copy, paste and edit it in any software. This is 
>> important because only then it is possible to search for SignWriting 
>> symbols in the KSL Dictionary.

The font that you want is not available yet.  It will be called the 
"Sutton SignWriting Two-D" font, as in 2-dimensional.  This font will be 
compatible with the SignWriting in Unicode (SWU) character set.  I have 
outlined the project and development path for this new font.  You can 
read the grant proposal online.
* 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/slevinski/ASL_Wikipedia_2-D_Font_Development_for_SignWriting

This grant was submitted to the Wikimedia Foundation and made it to the 
second round, but was not selected.  We have looked for alternate 
funding sources of this grant, but we have not been able to identify any 
likely sources.

Regardless of funding, this project is on my to-do list and it will be 
completed, hopefully in 2020.

A bit of background.

Consider the sign for SignWriting.


This sign can be written in Formal SignWriting in ASCII (FSW) as 
AS10011S10019S2ea04S2ea48S1eb20S15a0aS29b0bM522x573S10019477x437S10011501x428S2ea04506x464S2ea48484x472S29b0b486x538S15a0a487x510S1eb20496x526.

This character string is useful for recording a sign, but it requires 
SVG to view it.

Alternatively, this sign can also be written in SignWriting in Unicode 
(SWU).  If you have the Sutton SignWriting One-D font, you will see the 
following character string.

𝠀񀀒񀀚񋟅񋠉񅡁񂇋񉨬𝠃𝤜𝥏񀀚𝣯𝣇񀀒𝤇𝢾񋟅𝤌𝣢񋠉𝣶𝣪񉨬𝣸𝤬񂇋𝣹𝤐񅡁𝤂𝤠


The string should look like this with the Sutton SignWriting One-D font 
installed.


In codepoints, the string looks like this.

\x{1D800}\x{40012}\x{4001A}\x{4B7C5}\x{4B809}\x{45841}\x{421CB}\x{49A2C}\x{1D803}\x{1D91C}\x{1D94F}\x{4001A}\x{1D8EF}\x{1D8C7}\x{40012}\x{1D907}\x{1D8BE}\x{4B7C5}\x{1D90C}\x{1D8E2}\x{4B809}\x{1D8F6}\x{1D8EA}\x{49A2C}\x{1D8F8}\x{1D92C}\x{421CB}\x{1D8F9}\x{1D910}\x{45841}\x{1D902}\x{1D920}



Once the Sutton SignWriting Two-D font is available, you will be able to 
select the string, choose the Sutton SignWriting Two-D font, and you 
will see the two-dimensional sign rather than the one-dimensional 
string.  With SignWriting in Unicode (SWU), both fonts will be useful.

You can easily copy, paste, and search signs written in either character 
set.  Editing, however, has additional requirements.

With Formal SignWriting, each sign is written as a two-part word.
* https://www.slideshare.net/StephenSlevinski/a-sign-by-any-other-name
* https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting/

The two-dimensional placement of symbols is based on Cartesian 
coordinates of X,Y values.  These values are inter-related.  Moving one 
symbol can affect the X,Y values for other symbols.  Because of this, 
writing a sign requires a special editor.


>> I just found something in the list archive about MS Word, but this 
>> only strengthens my assumption that signwriting can only copied as an 
>> image.
Yes.  Currently, entire signs can only be used in MS Word as graphics, 
either a raster image or SVG.  This will be true until the 
two-dimensional font is ready.  Right now it is possible to use 
individual symbols, recorded as SignWriting in Unicode (SWU), in MS 
Word.  Searching works as expected.

Regards,
-Steve
https://SteveSlevinski.me

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