[Sw-l] Hands orientation and corresponding symbols rotation

Sun May 5 08:27:28 UTC 2019

PS: Maybe it is easier if I can get confirmation of accuracy of the
following table.
Thank you for your attention.
Regards,
dg

Rotations parallel to the front wall

Rotations parallel to the floor

On Sun, 5 May 2019 at 08:27, Daniele Giacomini <appunti2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you very much. I need one last confirmation, to be sure that I
> understood correctly. Is each couple of the following symbols representing
> the same hand position? (I mean: each couple a different position.)
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> Thank you for your attention.
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> Regards,
> Daniele
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> On Sat, 4 May 2019 at 18:29, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> These symbols are difficult for many beginners because of the difference
>> in rational and intuitive interpretation of the symbols. The rational
>> interpretation comes about when looking that the function of the individual
>> symbols and how they get their meaning, which is what you are doing right
>> now. And there is nothing wrong with that. Basically, everything your email
>> “assumed” is correct in the rational interpretation of the symbols. (Of
>> course, I am assuming that by rotating 90º you mean rotating on the floor
>> plane rather than the wall plane.)
>>
>> However, I doubt that you have actually been rotating them the “wrong”
>> way because there is an intuitive interpretation as well. The intuitive
>> interpretation of the symbols comes into play when you write complete signs
>> and the symbols just don’t look right because the fingers aren’t pointing
>> in the correct direction. Let me quote from the Hand Symbols Manual.
>>
>> Finger Direction Is Meaningful
>> Two ways to write the same positions: The Top View of the Back of the
>> Hand can be written at
>> a slant. Some writers feel this looks like real life, because the fingers
>> are directed down.
>>
>> Basically, the intuitive interpretation of the hand symbol means that the
>> symbol on the right in the image below can mean the same as the symbol on
>> the left.
>>
>> This is not limited to the Back of the Hand in Top View; this same
>> interpretation can be applied to other rotations as well. The best way to
>> understand how this interpretation works is by actually writing signs
>> instead of analyzing the technical functions of the symbols.
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On May 4, 2019, at 4:17 AM, Daniele Giacomini <appunti2 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I realized that, often, I have been using hand symbols rotated in the
>> wrong way. Trying to make my mind clear, I have prepared a table for the
>> shape "Angle" and I am asking your help.
>>
>> *Firstly* to understand if what you can see in the following table is
>> correct:
>>
>> Angle
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>> *Secondly*: if the first three columns are correct, do I have to assume
>> that the rotations in the last three columns should be interpreted as
>> parallel to the floor?
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>> *Thirdly*: if the above assumptions are correct, do I have to assume
>> that:
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>> , rotated 90° counterclockwise, is the same as  ?
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>> , rotated 90° clockwise, is the same as ?
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>> , rotate 90° counterclockwise, is the same as  ?
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>> Thank you for you attention.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Daniele
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