[Sw-l] Thai Sign For GOOD LUCK

[Adam Frost]

Hello Sutthikhun,

I have a question for you about GOOD LUCK. Are the facial expressions obligatory, meaning does the sign become unable to be understood if they are not included?

I realize that this is something that can only be answered by a native user, and I don’t know if you are or not. The reason I ask is that I know that in ASL there are often has facial expressions that are necessary for signs to be understood, but not always. I have found that “emotive” expressions are not necessary unless writing a narrative or story. So a dictionary entry might not necessarily have “emotive" expression written even if the videos have them. (I also include mouth movement left over from spoken languages as “emotive” expressions as well, but there may be times where it is an obligatory expression instead, so it is left up to the native users to decide.)


Adam

> On May 24, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <suttikunep at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Exactly, that was me adding some Thai signs to the ThSL SP Online after you suggested me for the website. It's so fun and useful. 😄 Your transcription is also interesting and the comment sounds reasonable to me. Thanks again! Anyway, I don't understand the term "one compound sign". I'm curious about how the compound form would be if the two signs were used together?
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> <thank you.png>
> Sutthikhun
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> On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 23:48, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org <mailto:sutton at signwriting.org>> wrote:
> SignWriting List
> May 24, 2021
> 
> Here is how I would write the Thai sign for Good Luck, based on the video:
> 
> Thai sign for GOOD LUCK on video
> https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=34&sid=15&sTrm=Good+luck&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=& <https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=34&sid=15&sTrm=Good+luck&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&>
> 
> There are two signs really. In the first sign, I chose a different handshape and I placed the fingers directed down towards the palm of the base hand so we can see that the fingers are directed down. I used a Touch Star to show contact with the fingers. I also chose not to write a thumb for the base hand since it is not important to the sign.
> 
> And I did not put an UP arrow between the two signs since we read down the page so the next sign assumes the hand had to move up.
> 
> 
> <Thai_Sign_GOOD_LUCK_2.png>
> 
> 
> There are other ways to see this. If the two signs are always used together, it could be written as one compound sign, and that would look different.
> 
> I placed this writing in the Thailand SignPuddle Online so now there are two different entries for GOOD LUCK. Scroll down to see them:
> 
> Good luck
> https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=34&sid=15,18&sTrm=Good+luck&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=& <https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=34&sid=15,18&sTrm=Good+luck&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&>
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> Val ;-)
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