[Sw-l] Sign Maker - Collecting ideas for faster writing

[Uta Meißner]

Dear Jonathan,

Thank you for sharing the link to signEditor. It's nice that there are
several and that you can try them out and that new ideas can also arise in
this way.

I got to know your tool and find it interesting. The idea of placing
symbols on a human image is a good one. :) You can find the symbols better
there.

Did I understand correctly that you need a keyboard AND a mouse? Selection
of symbols with the mouse and selection of rotation and localization with
the keyboard. Oh and also finer selection, e.g. arrow for right or left
hand.

What interests me is the criteria according to which the hand shapes are
grouped.
According to Papaspyrou, DGS has 30 phonemes. And we haven't been able to
group them to our satisfaction. Therefore, we have all shwon neutral. Only
the placement of the hand shapes is deliberately chosen. Similar ones lie
next to each other.

We cannot take over grouping by numbers at signPuddle, as it is still
difficult for us to choose the right group when we are looking for a
certain hand shape.

Greetings Uta





On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 12:46 PM Jonathan Duncan <joyoduncan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> If you want to try out QuickSignEditor (no saving capability in this
> one, but the same is in SignWriter Studio and can save) Try it here.
>
> https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/
>
> or
>
> https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en
>
> Jonathan
>
> On 11/25/2021 8:41 PM, Jonathan Duncan wrote:
> > Hi Uta,
> >
> >     I agree that is a very useful idea. I found myself copying
> > existing signs and modifying them to save work.  Mostly I had to
> > remember the signs I needed to copy them and modify them.
> >
> >     It seems to me SignMaker 2015 has a feature that does just that.
> > Import your puddle, then start writing and it can filter the puddle to
> > show signs that match on the left.  Alas, you can't easily save the
> > sign back to the public puddles.
> >
> >     SignWriter Studio can search signs by symbol too and you can
> > import a puddle to have a starting point. And you can also duplicate
> > entries to easily modify the duplicated one.  And if you have a
> > SignPuddle account you can save it back to the public puddle.  It also
> > has quick sign editor which makes it easier to get to all the symbols
> > and easily change a symbol to another rotation etc. However it only
> > works on Windows.  If you're interested, I can show you how to do it
> > on a Zoom call.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On 11/25/2021 9:44 AM, Uta Meißner wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> So far, we, delegs (is working with sign2mint), have received about
> >> 2000 videos and have also transcribed them. We have been able to gain
> >> a lot of experience with signwriting.
> >>
> >> Who also has experience?
> >>
> >> We need about one hour for 20 videos and that is too much. We want to
> >> go faster. One video is only about 2 seconds long.
> >>
> >> My suggestion:
> >> - Sign search must be built in, because many signs are similar. And
> >> it should be suggested signs and if I find a similar one, then I
> >> choose it and adjust it.
> >> - Handshape symbol should always be placed in the middle if neutral
> >> (want to avoid long dragging)
> >> - Language selection should lead to reduction of symbols like hand
> >> shapes. DGS, for example, has only about 60 hand shapes.
> >> - Left hand that are paralell or symmetrical should be inserted
> >> automatically.
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >>
> >> I am looking forward to our animated exchange!
> >>
> >> Best regards Uta
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