[Sw-l] Rotation symbols

Sun Apr 10 18:32:44 UTC 2022

SignWriting List
April 10, 2022

Hello Uta, and SW List,

Great to hear from you again, Uta.

I love the “sign2mint” project. Congratulations on meeting your goal of 5000 signs next week!

Plus, you are adding SWU (SignWriting Unicode) to the lexicon in May. That is quite an accomplishment.

And a new project starting too - such good news.

I agree that the SignWriting tutorials can always be better… and Rotation Symbols have always been one of the areas in need of more instruction…

I hope to review your examples soon, and I hope others will too…

Thanks for posting the questions below -

Val ;-)

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> On Apr 10, 2022, at 9:34 AM, Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> I am always happy when many questions are asked here and there are also answers to them. I learn a lot here. 
> I also still stumble over rotation symbols. Among us signwriters there are also different understandings. 
> We need to make the tutorial better, because only then will sign language be better accepted and more widespread. 
> 
> Lately we have been very busy with writing sign2mint. And I hope you are satisfied with the quality. I hope you will find some time to correct some difficult sign scripts.
> 
> Here are a few examples where I'm interested if you read the signwriting, would you sign like in the video.
> 
> https://sign2mint.de/entry/Bahndrehimpuls/5750242766511595:979
> I missed a movement here, which shows a half circle on the table.  
> 
> https://sign2mint.de/entry/Agile/8088731661663380:5
> are there other ways where you can read it better?
> 
> https://sign2mint.de/entry/ausf%C3%BChren/14548230564932464:604
> 
> https://sign2mint.de/entry/Backup/14548230564932464:506
> 
> Thank you very much!
> 
> We will reach our goal "5000 signs at sign2mint" next week. :)
> And at the beginning of May the lexicon will contain SWU. :)
> 
> And we are very happy that our new project was approved and we can work for another 3 years. :) 
> Not on sign2mint, but a similar one will come. 
> 
> Best regards
> Uta
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 2:21 AM André Thibeault <atg at videotron.ca> wrote:
> Hi AnnaGrace and everyone,
> 
> <9A72661D-B01E-4358-8B04-D42636312FC0.png> Is not the correct spelling.
> LEAGUE
> 
> <D8C07B28-EA55-4FAA-8065-008E0CDA9707.png> should be the correct spelling.
> LEAGUE
> 
> Best regaards,
> 
> André
> 
> 
> De : Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG>
> Répondre à : "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU>
> Date : Sat, 02 Apr 2022 16:07:42 -0700
> À : <SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU>
> Objet : Re: Rotation symbols
> 
> SignWriting List
> April 2, 2022
> 
> Here are some diagrams ;-)
> 
> <Image.png>
> 
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> <Image.png>
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> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 3:11 PM, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> The simplified answer is no they aren’t the same. The half circle starts in different places, albeit only a quarter of a circle difference in starting and ending location. One example would be the half circle starting on right side and then rotating to the left side, and the other hand circle would be starting closest to you and then rotating till it is farthest from you.
>> 
>> The complex answer is that while they are technically slightly different, that difference might not be that much of an importance for everyday writing. So a writer may choose to use the symbol that they are either more familiar with or just think looks more simple for writing and/or reading. The familiarity issue is also compounded by the fact that both symbols were not created at the same time, so the half circles from the left to right are older than the half circles farthest closest to farthest.
>> 
>> <namesign.png>
>> Adam
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> As I continue studying SignWriting on my own and with your help, I am looking at pages 142 to 143 of the textbook. 
>>> 
>>> It's about rotations. I am wondering, do these symbols mean the same thing? I am attaching pictures of the symbols
>>> and the spellings from SignPuddle 2.0 in ASL. (See below.)
>>> 
>>> I look forward to your feedback! 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> AnnaGrace
>>> 
>>> <Screen Shot 2022-04-02 at 2.56.40 PM.png>
>>> 
>>> <Screen Shot 2022-04-02 at 2.57.33 PM.png>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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