[Sw-l] A Filipino gesture, Pagmamano, written in MovementWriting

Sat Apr 23 19:19:37 UTC 2022

SignWriting List
April 23, 2022

Hello SignWriting List members, and AnnaGrace, Sutthikhun and John Carlson, 

Thank you for your messages about writing multiple people interacting with each other. There actually have been examples of such writing with Movement Writing and I look forward to time to send you examples…

I have not forgotten my many promises of posting documentation of writing styles, for example, of the new and inventive ways the General Movement Arrowhead for arm movements is written around the world… and better documentation of our history of the development of SignWriting with the Deaf Community in San Diego, related to the input of the Deaf staff of Dr. Ursula Bellugi’s Linguistics Lab at Salk Institute…Ironcially Dr. Bellugi passed away recently, while I am blessed with guests who worked with her 25 years ago staying with me … so it has been a momentous time really.

And now the focus on writing gesture, and interpersonal relations between people, which is coming full circle for me. My first job at the University of Copenhagen in 1974 was to write and compare the gestures of 5 hearing people sitting on a couch and chatting with each other in spoken Danish… comparing their gestures to another video of Danish Deaf people signing in DSL. Comparing the interpersonal reactions to each other as hearing people, was very different than viewing the Danish Deaf Community using a real language - that is how SignWriting began…was writing that comparison…

It was published later as a part of a dissertation, with only the hearing person’s gestures recorded I believe - I think they sent me a copy years later but I cannot find it posted on the web because that was before the internet...

Spring, 1978
Hørende Danskeres Gestus-Repertoire
(Hearing Danes' Gesture-Repertoire)
by Jan Enggaard. This published research used SignWriting to record hearing person's gestures. The research was conducted at the Audiologopædisk Forskningsgruppe, University of Copenhagen, Denmark.

Anyway - I will post in a day or two - Thank you so much for these messages -

Val ;-)

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> On Apr 19, 2022, at 2:03 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Now that Val mentioned about having two or more people in DanceWriting as well as Sutthikhun's depiction of two people interacting in SMW, I became more interested in learning how to "write" movements of two or more people in the same space. 
> 
> More specifically, I have been thinking how helpful SMW would be in storyboarding which is created and used prior to filming. For instance, it would be nice to see how two actors move and/or interact with each other on paper so that the vision can be more easily communicated to the cast and crew.
> 
> Just a thought. Keep on creatin'!
> 
> ~ AnnaGrace
> 
> ____________

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> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 5:51 PM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
> SignWriting List
> April 14, 2022
> 
> Hello SignWriting List members, Sutthikhun, and AnnaGrace,
> 
> Thank you for these supportive and interesting messages about writing interpersonal contact with Sutton Movement Writing.
> 
> I appreciate your support for this idea. I believe there is a SW project, if I remember correctly, a project in Germany for research, using MovementWriting and also SignWriting…at a University at Bayreuth, Germany…." ISWA in Multimodal Transcripts" ...
> 
> And writing Group Dances in DanceWriting, was written from the beginning of the system, on separate 5-lined staffs…
> 
> I never forgot our first experience writing a ballet section of Sleeping Beauty ballet called “The Rose Adagio” where 5 male dancers wait in line to dance with the female dancer, and she takes her time moving from one male dancer to the next, each one waiting patiently on their own individual 5-lined staff under the music ;-)
> 
> But the writing of the Mano gesture is unique and places two actors on the SAME staff, so thank you for writing it this way.
> 
> For those who celebrate at this time of year, I want to wish you all a blessed holiday and celebration of Spring.
> 
> In the past, we wrote Easter Cards in SignWriting and all of them are lovely!
> 
> The older cards are still located here:
> 
> SignWriting Easter Cards
> https://www.signwriting.org/cards/
> 
> Val ;-)
> 
> _______________
> 
> 
> 
> > On Apr 11, 2022, at 7:10 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Sutthikhun,
> > 
> > Last December you shared the poster about handwashing in Sutton MovementWriting. I was blown away! 
> > 
> > I think that anyone could learn Sutton MovementWriting to depict body language, gestures, physical action, etc. It doesn't have to be restricted to sign language or dancing. Your posters on the Mano gesture and handwashing exemplify the resourcefulness of SMW which can transmit a message more fully than written spoken language. (By the way, I love your new poster on the Mano gesture! What a beautiful painting, too.)
> > 
> > Like the current use of musical notations on music sheets and mathematics, Sutton MovementWriting can be understood internationally in spite of the differences in spoken languages. Clearly, these symbols are not just for deaf people or dancers. I believe anyone can use it for many other purposes as well. As it is happening already, these symbols are being used internationally. It is up to us to continue the spread and to maintain these symbols by teaching and using them.
> > 
> > I hope you will make more posters. Please continue sharing them with us here on the SW list!
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > AnnaGrace
> > 
> >___________________
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 9:39 AM Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <suttikunep at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Valerie and everyone, 
> > 
> > I'm not sure if MovementWriting (MW), including SignWriting and DanceWriting (DW), enables writing symbols for human interaction on a regular basis. As far as I know, SW is used for writing sign language from the expressive viewpoint of a single signer, and DW can be used for writing solo and group dances from the receptive viewpoint, but I haven't seen writing for interpersonal interactions like person-to-person touching. So I intended to try writing MW in a different way, and I believe that in the future, SW, DW, and other kinds of MW will also be used to write physical interactions between people.
> > 
> > Sutthikhun

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> > 
> > On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 at 10:40, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
> > SignWriting List
> > April 10, 2022
> > 
> > What a fascinating position to write, Sutthikhun. Thank you for writing this and posting it.
> > 
> > At one point, there were active SignWriters in the Philippines, writing Filipino Sign Language. They added to the SignPuddle dictionary:
> > 
> > SignPuddle Dictionary Philippines
> > https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=72
> > 
> > and there is more information here about them:
> > 
> > SignWriting in the Philippines
> > https://www.signwriting.org/philippines/
> > 
> > But it has been many years…
> > 
> > It would be fun to reconnect...
> > 
> > Val ;-)
> > 
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> > 
> >> On Apr 10, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <suttikunep at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello SW List members, 
> >> 
> >> Any Filipino members here? I've just done a MovementWriting work about a Filipino hand gesture, Mano or Pagmamano, which is used to perform as a sign of respect to elders and as a way of requesting a blessing from the elder.
> >> 
> >> <MW_others.png>
> >> 
> >> And how about your cultural hand gestures? Share them with us in MovementWriting! 😉
> >> 
> >> Sutthikhun
> > 

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