[Sw-l] [SPAM] Re: Digitizing SignWriting DOS Keyboards

Sat Feb 5 19:29:18 UTC 2022

Hi Amit and everyone in SW List!

The TXT files for ThaiSL (ThSL) and ChineseSL (CSL) fingerspellings are
available here. Because ThSL and CSL fingerspellings differ from those of
alphabetic writing systems such as Latin, Greek, Cyrillic, and so on,
please read my notes in the file "Fingerpelling-CSL" on linguistic detail.
ThSL fingerspelling is based on Thai, an Abugida script, while CSL is based
on pinyin, which is signed phoneme-by-phoneme rather than letter-by-letter.

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Sutthikhun

On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 16:50, Amit Moryossef <amitmoryossef at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all
> I'm looking to re-digitize SignWriting fingerspelling in different
> languages, based on the SW DOS Keyboards
> <https://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/fingkeys/fkey001.html?fbclid=IwAR2SvXIHZIokWx_1ckY3nuLLcpoNu2Er1opwmfi_OdR4xflU1UeMlUKgJNU#anchor718062>.
>
>
> Would anyone be interested in paid work to go over the keyboards and write
> each character with FSW?
>
> Amit
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Fingerspelling CSL (Chinese Sign Language)

B,M507x511S14720493x489
P,M508x515S1da1c492x486
M,M508x510S1fd20493x491
F,M515x508S11502485x493
D,M508x508S20320493x493
T,M511x515S1a120490x486
N,M508x510S1fc20493x491
L,M512x515S1dc20488x485
G,M515x508S10002485x493
K,M515x515S14010486x485
H,M508x515S11520493x485
J,M508x513S10610493x487
Q,M515x508S1f410486x493
X,M508x515S11a20493x485
Z,M515x510S1a002486x490
C,M509x510S16d10492x490
S,M512x508S18210489x493
ZH,M515x510S1a402485x490
CH,M512x508S17e10489x493
SH,M512x513S13210488x488
R,M515x512S1dc02485x488
Y,M514x510S19a20486x490
W,M509x515S18620491x485
V,M508x515S10e20493x485
A,M510x508S1f740490x493
O,M508x508S17610492x492
E,M515x511S1ce02485x489
Ê,M525x517S1ce02475x495S2880a503x484
I,M508x515S10020493x485
U,M510x514S15d20491x487
Ü,M512x517S15d20489x490S22214491x484
IA,M514x510S19a20486x490
UA,M509x515S18620491x485
UO,M508x508S17610492x492
AI,M512x515S12d20489x485
UAI,M515x512S12d02485x489
EI,M514x515S19c20486x486
UI,M515x514S19c02486x486
AO,M510x515S1d720491x486
IAO,M515x510S1d702486x491
OU,M511x513S1b120490x487
IU,M513x511S1b102487x490
IE,M511x515S1ce20489x485
ÜE,M511x515S1ce40489x485
ER,M515x512S1dc02485x488
AN,M510x508S1f750490x493
IAN,M514x510S19a50486x490
UAN,M509x515S18650491x485
EN,M508x510S1fc50493x491
UN,M510x514S15d50491x487
IN,M508x515S10050493x485
ANG,M510x508S1f720490x493
IANG,M510x514S19a02490x486
UANG,M515x509S18602485x491
ING,M515x508S10002485x493
ONG,M514x510S15d02487x491
IONG,M514x510S15d02487x491
ENG,M510x511S19202491x490
NG,M510x511S19202491x490
ˉ,M510x518S10050490x488S26506495x482 {Tone 1}
ˊ,M509x519S10050492x489S22a07496x481 {Tone 2}
ˇ,M514x518S10050486x488S23b09490x483 {Tone 3}
ˋ,M509x517S10050492x487S22a05496x483 {Tone 4}

Notes:
1) Initial consonants are prefixes while both vowels and final consonants are suffixes in pinyin writing. For example, NǏHǍO, N- and H- are prefixes while -I and -AO are suffixes.
2) -Ê with a hat (e-circumflex) is not used in everyday life pinyin writing because it stands for the sound /e/ like E in RED, which is only present in the suffix -EI with no hat (-ÊI is always replaced by -EI that has been taken off the diacritic by rule).
3) -NG handshape won't be signed if -ANG, -IANG, -UANG, ..., or -ENG handshape appears.
4) -Ê and -NG might be there for linguistic reasons but not for everyday life using.
5) Usually, pinyin places a tonal mark above a vowel in a monosyllable, but in CSL, the tonal mark handshapes are always signed at the end of their syllables. For example, NǏHǍO will be signed N-I-TONE3 H-AO-TONE3.
6) Any suffixes other than E that are followed by R, e.g., -AR, -ENR, -IAR; -UANGR, are equivalent to those suffixes followed by -ER. For example, the word HÁIR will be signed H-AI-ER-TONE2 or the word NIǍOR will be signed N-IAO-ER-TONE3.
7) Please request more info from a CSL signer about the pinyin's rules in CSL fingerspelling. Maybe the Pinyin Input Method should also be included for the consideration.

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Fingerspelling ThSL (Thai Sign Language)

The FSW for all the entered symbols are:

ก,M510x507S1f720490x492
ข,M515x532S14020486x469S10020500x502
ค,M515x532S14020486x469S10e20500x502
ฆ,M515x532S14020486x469S11e20492x502
ง,M515x519S1f000486x504S1fc20500x481
จ,M519x518S19220498x499S2a20c482x483
ฉ,M515x519S16d10498x481S11502485x504
ช,M515x536S16d10498x465S11502485x488S10020500x506
ซ,M509x522S20320494x478S10b50492x496
ฌ,M515x536S16d10498x464S11502485x487S10e20500x506
ญ,M514x527S19a20486x474S10020492x497
ฎ,M508x532S10120492x468S10020492x502
ฏ,M512x527S1fb20493x474S14c20489x496
ฐ,M508x527S1fb20493x474S10e20493x497
ฑ,M511x527S1fb20491x474S14420489x496
ฒ,M512x526S1fb20497x474S11e20489x496
ณ,M508x527S1fc20493x474S10020493x497
ด,M508x515S10120492x485
ต,M508x510S1fb20493x491
ถ,M508x526S1fb20493x474S10020493x496
ท,M515x519S1fb20500x482S11502485x504
ธ,M515x535S1fb20500x465S11502485x487S10020500x505
น,M508x510S1fc20493x491
บ,M507x511S14720493x489
ป,M516x528S14051485x472S10020498x498
ผ,M516x528S14051485x472S10e20498x498
ฝ,M511x532S1ce20489x468S10020489x502
พ,M516x512S14051485x488
ฟ,M511x515S1ce20489x485
ภ,M516x528S14051485x472S11e20490x498
ม,M508x510S1fd20493x491
ย,M514x510S19a20486x490
ร,M508x515S11a20493x485
ล,M512x515S1dc20488x485
ว,M509x515S18620491x485
ศ,M508x525S20320493x476S10020493x495
ษ,M508x524S20320493x476S10e20493x494
ส,M508x508S20320493x493
ห,M515x508S11502485x493
ฬ,M512x532S1dc20488x468S10020497x502
อ,M512x511S1ea10489x490
ฮ,M515x524S11502485x476S10020500x494
ำ,M514x516S14c20491x485S21c00487x498
็,M512x516S14c20489x485S21c00491x504
ะ,M512x516S14c20489x485S21c00489x486
า,M512x516S14c20489x485S21c00493x493
ุ,M512x517S14c20489x486S21c00497x483
ู,M512x516S14c20489x485S21c00497x492
เ,M512x516S14c20489x485S21c00505x486
แ,M512x516S14c20489x485S21c00501x493
์,M523x516S14c20478x485S21c00498x493S20e00500x501S22a17510x490
ฤ,M512x516S14c20489x485S21c00503x499
ๆ,M520x521S14c20497x479S22105483x484S20e00481x498S21700493x493S22a15491x507
่,M519x520S14c20496x489S21700496x490S20e00481x487S22a14481x501S22104493x481
้,M519x522S14c20496x491S21700504x488S20e00481x489S22a14481x503S22104501x479
๊,M519x520S20e00506x487S22a14506x501S14c20481x489S21700497x490S22104494x481
๋,M521x520S20e00508x491S22a14508x505S14c20479x482S21700499x490S22103506x480
ั,M512x516S14c20489x485S21c00497x503
ฯ,M512x516S14c20489x485S21c00497x509
ิ,M514x517S10a20488x491S14a2c499x502S21c00487x483
ี,M508x508S14a20493x493
ึ,M508x517S17620492x483S14a20493x502
ื,M508x524S14a20493x477S11520493x494
โ,M512x508S17e10489x493
ไ,M511x510S19220490x491
ใ,M510x512S19820491x489

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