[Sw-l] Between floor and wall arm rotation

[AnnaGrace Greenfield]

In the video, I see the forearms traveling from an upright position to
parallel to the floor.[image: Screen Shot 2022-02-07 at 10.56.34 PM.png]
There's also a signwriting image on the right side of the video.

Regardless of the angle of the line through the arrows, my
understanding about these arrows is that they rotate without moving the
forearms. (See under "Axial Movement" in the SignWriting textbook.)
Therefore, the signwriting in the video does not accurately depict the sign
in the video.

That's my take on it.

-- AnnaGrace


On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 10:45 PM AnnaGrace Greenfield <
msannagrace20 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I saw the video. If anyone asks me to produce a signwriting for this sign,
> this is what I would write:
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-07 at 10.44.10 PM.png]
> Any thoughts?
>
> ~ AnnaGrace
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 3:44 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree. I would write it with the rotation symbol as well. And this was
>> a good discussion too. :-)
>>
>> Thanks for everyone’s input. :-)
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2022, at 12:32 PM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG>
>> wrote:
>>
>> SignWriting List
>> February 6, 2022
>>
>> Hi Adam!
>> I was surprised when I saw your video. Thank you for sending it. This is
>> a different conversation than before. Thank you for posting the video
>> directly in email.
>>
>> I thought you were talking about straight traveling movement on the
>> diagonal plane with a rotation symbol on the stem line of the diagonal
>> plane straight arrow. Ha!
>>
>> But this is a very small movement. And there's no traveling from what I
>> can see. So this is a Rotation Symbol.
>>
>> See the diagram attached. That is how I would write it. No diagonal plane
>> needed.
>>
>> We do not have a diagonal plane for Rotation Symbols. Only Floor and Wall.
>>
>> If it is important, from a linguistic point of view, to state that the
>> forearm is on the diagonal plane in the first position, and not somewhere
>> in between, then I would write a stick figure with arms. Or just the arm
>> line by itself may be able to show these details for gesture writing, or
>> for writing mime or dance. But a sign like this can be read without those
>> details I think.
>>
>> Please see the attached. I hope this helps. I will try to be back online
>> on Tuesday.
>>
>> Thank you everyone for your busy and wonderful discussions.
>>
>> Have a wonderful weekend!
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
>> <Arm rotation 2.png>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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