[Sw-l] Could you proofread my ASL signwriting?

AnnaGrace Greenfield msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Feb 8 23:06:26 UTC 2022


Hi Adam,

Looking at the "22" part in your glyph (see below), there's no wrist
movement. I use the wrist movement when I sign the "22" part.
Do you move your wrist or not? I am wondering if this is a sign variation.
(I'm from the East Coast.)

I look forward to your comment.

Thanks,
Anna Grace


On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:24 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would write it like below. Although you could have the double movement
> for 20, if you would like.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Feb 8, 2022, at 10:11 AM, AnnaGrace Greenfield <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>
> Adam,
>
> How would you signwrite "2022"?
>
> Thanks,
> AnnaGrace
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:06 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I didn’t even think 6 could be 2022! I guess I can see that, although I
>> would write it with completely different hands.
>>
>> <namesign.png>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 9:58 AM, André Thibeault <atg at VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Adam already answers: 1, 2,3,4 et 5.
>>
>> 6: 2022
>> 7: EAT ?
>> 8: EATING (is eating)?
>> 9: FOOD ?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Abdré
>>
>> De : Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM>
>> Répondre à : "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <
>> SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU>
>> Date : Tue, 08 Feb 2022 09:22:51 -0800
>> À : <SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU>
>> Objet : Re: Could you proofread my ASL signwriting?
>>
>> Hello AnnaGrace,
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.06 AM.png>
>>
>>
>> I would assume you meant “class”; however, the rotation of the hands have
>> some issues. The first is that the thicker part of the “C” is the finger
>> side, so you have a couple of hands upside-down. The other issue is with
>> the white palm facing. I know there are two different approaches for
>> writing this facing with angle/hinge/bent/curve hands. One is that every
>> sign has a center, and as such, these fingers should be directed to the
>> center. The other is that the thumb should be one the side as it is in real
>> life, which is what it looks like you are following here. I personally
>> follow the first approach.
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.14 AM.png>
>>
>>
>> I think you mean “chair”, but I am not sure why the base hand also has
>> bent fingers. They are never bent when I sign this. In fact, I am starting
>> to not write the other fingers as bent as well, personally, because I
>> notice I rarely actually bend the fingers. Same with several of my friends
>> as well.
>>
>>  <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.21 AM.png>
>>
>>
>> I think you mean “sit”. The same issue with chair applies here as well. I
>> noticed you used touch for chair instead of grasp like you did for sit. Not
>> that it’s wrong, but I thought it was interesting.
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.29 AM.png>
>>
>>
>> I think you mean “dog”, but the movement arrows actually mean the arm
>> travels. There are other arrows that means the fingers move that are needed
>> here. The almost look like general movement arrows, but smaller. I also
>> question if it is actually a back and forth rub movement, or if it is a
>> back-back brush movement.
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.38 AM.png>
>>
>>
>> I have no clue what this sign is. I would read it as a fist that is
>> facing away coming diagonally up-right to the chin to touch and then moves
>> back towards the throat, all with a kiss shaped mouth. Were you trying to
>> write “kiss fist”?
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.47.05 AM.png>  <SW ate.png>  <SW eating.png>
>>   <SW will eat.png>
>>
>>
>> The rest I actually have no idea what they mean. I could try reading them
>> like I did above, but they don’t feel like good guesses to me. 6 has a
>> handshape that looks constructed and I am not sure what is meant by it
>> because the fingers aren’t placed in the normal convention. 7, 8, and 9
>> look like they are various forms of “eating”, but the handshape is only
>> with the index and thumb rather than all of them so it leads me to think
>> they have to do with a bird pecking at the face.
>>
>> <namesign.png>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 6:51 AM, AnnaGrace Greenfield <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've come up with American Sign Language signwriting for nine or ten
>> English words. They are displayed at the bottom of this email. I'd like to
>> see if your answers are the same as mine. I would like to run them by you
>> before I can contribute them to the SignWriting Dictionary.
>> Your answers can be next to the corresponding number on the list. Thanks
>> so much!
>> *English answers:*
>> 1.
>> 2.
>> 3.
>> 4.
>> 5.
>> 6.
>> 7.
>> 8.
>> 9.
>>
>> *ASL signwriting:*
>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.06 AM.png>  <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at
>> 9.35.14 AM.png>  <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.21 AM.png>  <Screen
>> Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.29 AM.png>   <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.38
>> AM.png>
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.47.05 AM.png>  <SW ate.png>  <SW eating.png>
>>   <SW will eat.png>
>>
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