[Sw-l] Between floor and wall arm rotation

[Uta Meißner]

That's how great it is here. Lots of thoughts on how best to script this.
Should be easy to read but also to find, this sign.

One thing is for sure, we will adapt the writing. But first we have to
think about which one is the best, because the consequence is that we have
to adapt all affected signs as well and that is not without with meanwhile
3000 signs. :D

We were/are motivated to transcribe signs with a maximum of 2 hands, so
that the pictures do not look so overloaded. And also so that there are not
so many results when searching for a certain hand shape. The end handshapes
should be derived by movements themselves.
But I notice that sometimes  it is more complicated or even too complicated
and it is easier to work with end hand shapes.

Nevertheless, I think that we should not neglect the movement, because it's
a pity if you can't find certain movements. But that's what we are here
for. :D Always nice one after the other. First start with easier ;)

Because of the possible overloading of the pictures, wouldn't it be an
idea, if there are beginning and end handshapes, then always the beginning
handshape has a slightly lighter color? For better readability.

SignSearch in https://sign2mint.de/search/gebaerdensuche:
Here you can search single symbols or even search several symbols together.

Currently the search is not yet optimal, it is only sorted by the number of
symbols. ;) I think we will adopt the sorting from signPuddle. But first we
have to recode. In SWU.

Just try it out :D



On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 7:11 PM AnnaGrace Greenfield <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Val,
> Thank you for confirming the placement and orientation of the
> "simultaneous line" on my signwriting.
> Interestingly, it seems that to the familiar signer and signwriter, it can
> be dropped. However, for a new signer and signwriter, it could be a helpful
> aid.
> This is not unlike other written languages where some marks are dropped.
> For example, in modern Hebrew, they would have vowel markers mostly
> underneath the letters (called nikud) which is helpful for a learner.
> However, for a familiar reader, these are not used.
> Cheers,
> AnnaGrace
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 12:11 PM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
> wrote:
>
>> SignWriting List
>> February 8, 2022
>>
>> Hi AnnaGrace and everyone,
>> I promise to teach more about Dynamics Symbols in another thread.
>>
>> Regarding the Simultaneous Line. If you wish to write one, you can, and
>> you placed it in the correct position, AnnaGrace, in the diagram below. But
>> notice I didn't write it. Why? Althoughl our old writing does use the
>> Simultaneous Line when two hands are moving at the same time, we decided
>> that we will ASSUME that the two hands are moving simultaneously, even
>> without the Simultaneous Line, unless we state otherwise.
>>
>>
>> ------------
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:13 AM, AnnaGrace Greenfield <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I am wondering, is it necessary to put in the "simultaneous line" in this
>> signwriting for this sign (see the glyph in this email)?
>> If so, is it in the correct position and orientation?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 11:03 AM AnnaGrace Greenfield <
>> msannagrace20 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Val,
>>
>> I stand corrected. I absolutely prefer your signwriting on that
>> particular sign.
>>
>> Thanks so much, :-)
>>
>> AnnaGrace
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:47 AM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
>> wrote:
>> SignWriting List
>> February 8, 2022
>>
>> Hello AnnaGrace!
>>
>> It is so great to get your feedback on the SignWriting List. Thank you
>> for your posts.
>>
>> Regarding this video:
>> https://sign2mint.de/entry/homogen/5750242766511595:730
>>
>> We are in agreement. The only difference would be the final position of
>> the palm facing. I saw the palms facing up, parallel to the floor. And in
>> your writing the palms are facing each other, parallel to the floor.
>>
>> I can see that it is a matter of interpretation since the palm facing is
>> in between those two. So we make a choice one way or the other.
>>
>> Thank you for your input!
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
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>> ____________
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>>
>> On Feb 7, 2022, at 7:45 PM, AnnaGrace Greenfield <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I saw the video. If anyone asks me to produce a signwriting for this
>> sign, this is what I would write:
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> ~ AnnaGrace
>>
>>
>>
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