[Sw-l] To "V" or not to "V", that is the question.

Sun Feb 13 14:45:43 UTC 2022

Here in Brazil we use "Brazilian Sign Language". I've been using it since I
was a kid.

I learned ASL as an adult. I made friends with deaf people and American
interpreters. Some because of sign writing, others because of special
education. There is currently an American interpreter who is here in Brazil
doing an exchange program, and as he doesn't know Portuguese or sign
language here, I'm accompanying him in the activities. So I'm a deaf
translator.
 Because of all this, I have practice in ASL.

Did you know that SW makes learning another sign language a lot easier?

Watch this video of mine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85rUxnOElUw

Before I signed, I watched other deaf people sign the same text and wrote
through SW the way they translated it. This helped me to understand the
logic of the text to do my own translation.
Have you ever tried writing an entire text in ASL to make it easier to sign
in a lecture or presentation?

On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 11:28 AM AnnaGrace Greenfield <
msannagrace20 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> I am impressed by your knowledge of ASL.
>
> Can you tell me, how did you learn ASL?
>
> Thanks,
> AnnaGrace
>
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 9:18 AM Carlos Cristian Libras <
> carloscristianlibras at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am very happy to know a little more about you AnnaGrace.
>> I am glad to hear that you see the benefits of SW for deaf students.
>>
>> I like to tell my students that in a few years time, sign writing,
>> whether by the SW sutton method or other methods, will be very popular and
>> common among the deaf.
>> We who are starting this work in practice will be remembered by the
>> history books as "those who took the first steps in the right direction."
>>  When we are dead, of course, maybe 200 years from now, our names will be
>> in the history books of the deaf people. And I believe that you and I have
>> more potential for that, because we are deaf.
>>
>> I just wanted to leave my encouragement here, let's keep moving forward
>> in the education of the deaf, because the future depends on what we do
>> today.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 11:10 AM AnnaGrace Greenfield <
>> msannagrace20 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All (again),
>>>
>>> Below is the same message I recently emailed. I caught two English
>>> mistakes a second after I emailed it. (Slapping myself on my forehead!)
>>> I made the corrections, and they are highlighted in yellow. I apologize
>>> for the inconvenience!
>>> Thanks, and chat with you soon!
>>> ~ AnnaGrace
>>> ===========================================================
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> You've been seeing more of my messages lately. You may wonder who I
>>> really am.
>>>
>>> Well, allow me to properly introduce more about myself.
>>>
>>> I live in the United States. I am Deaf, and I am fluent in both ASL and
>>> American English. I have been deaf since birth.
>>>
>>> I have a BA and MBA degrees. I used to be an accountant, but I switched
>>> my career to the education industry.
>>>
>>> I have been tutoring both d/Deaf and hearing people on the subjects of
>>> sign language, business, and English.
>>>
>>> It is my wish to improve English literacy among the d/Deaf population,
>>> and I believe that signing literacy (or sign literacy)
>>> in the form of SignWriting would greatly aid them to learn language
>>> skills.
>>>
>>> Thank you to each and every one of you who have read my messages and
>>> have responded to them. Your feedback is greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> With warm regards,
>>>
>>> AnnaGrace
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 9:01 AM AnnaGrace Greenfield <
>>> msannagrace20 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> You've been seeing more of my messages laterly. You may wonder who I
>>>> really am.
>>>>
>>>> Well, allow me to properly introduce more about myself.
>>>>
>>>> I live in the United States. I am Deaf, and I am fluent in both ASL and
>>>> American English. I have been deaf since birth.
>>>>
>>>> I have a BA and MBA degrees. I used to be an accountant, but I switched
>>>> my career to the education industry.
>>>>
>>>> I have been tutoring both d/Deaf and hearing people on the subject of
>>>> sign language, business, and English.
>>>>
>>>> It is my wish to improve English literacy among the d/Deaf population,
>>>> and I believe that signing literacy (or sign literacy)
>>>> in the form of SignWriting would greatly aid them to learn language
>>>> skills.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you to each and every one of you who have read my messages and
>>>> have responded to them. Your feedback is greatly appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> With warm regards,
>>>>
>>>> AnnaGrace
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 6:31 PM Stefan Woehrmann <
>>>> 000000068eb2df61-dmarc-request at listserv.valenciacollege.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Valerie,
>>>>>
>>>>> you are such an exceptionally patient teacher. What a wonderful
>>>>> lecture about the background of why we write as we do ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at the "Cooling Down Dance" written by Susanne Pach....well I
>>>>> wrote a movement dance for two people/groups and performed it on stage. I
>>>>> am not sure if this is included in your downloads collection. hm ??
>>>>>
>>>>> Well ...creating new symbols for handshapes is a difficult procedure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you remember our work with the Ethiopian SignWriting-Alphabet....so
>>>>> many hours of work...and so much fun...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs6/sw0579_ET_DE_SignWritingReport2009.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: grafik.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a great Sunday
>>>>>
>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Sa., 12. Feb. 2022 um 23:21 Uhr schrieb AnnaGrace Greenfield <
>>>>> msannagrace20 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HI Valerie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your rich information in your recent email! It is
>>>>>> certainly the highlight of my day!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please be assured that I am not suggesting
>>>>>> to replace the[image: image.png]glyph with this[image: image.png]
>>>>>> glyph.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I apologize for any misunderstanding. (I had said it "*looks* like
>>>>>> 'K'." I did not say "that should be a sign for 'K'.")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It makes sense to me to use this [image: image.png]glyph to
>>>>>> represent a handshape used for the letters "K" or "P" in ASL, as well as
>>>>>> any other signs that appropriately use this particular handshape.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now, I am researching and typing up notes. As soon as I am
>>>>>> done, I will certainly share them with you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my next email, I will write a biography of myself. Coming up soon!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With appreciation,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AnnaGrace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 3:41 PM Valerie Sutton <
>>>>>> sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SignWriting List
>>>>>>> February 12, 2022
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This darling diagram is written by Susanne Pach, who taught a
>>>>>>> workshop on SignWriting in England, for Maureen Doyle, at Practice Makes
>>>>>>> Perfect in Southport, years ago. This is from a game that Susanne
>>>>>>> constructed called the cooling down dance. Notice the use of the two hand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Games in SignWriting
>>>>>>> https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/games/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs7/sw0611_SignWriting_CoolingDownDance_SuzannePach.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton at signwriting.org
>>>>>>
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>>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION
>>>>>
>>>>> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton at signwriting.org
>>>>>
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>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>
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>>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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> ________________________________________________
>
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>
> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton at signwriting.org
>
> Post Messages to the SignWriting List: sw-l at listserv.valenciacollege.edu
>
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