[Sw-l] Spelling of Sightseeing

Thu Feb 17 17:14:29 UTC 2022

SignWriting List
February 17, 2022

Thank you Adam, for this great email with diagrams.

We are in agreement all the way.

The only reason why I wouldn't do a curve is because it doesn't have a flex, but if other people don't care whether there's a flex at the end or not then it doesn't matter does it?!

Thanks so much for this email. Very informative.

Val ;-)

> On Feb 17, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> That’s part of the reason I asked. ;-) I have several people off the list that I have been asking as well. Even some who aren’t familiar or skilled with SignWriting, just to see an alternative view in case there might be a more simple option.
> 
> So I have settled down with this as the main option:
> 
> 
> It actually takes the exact spelling of 22 on both hands. It seems that most people that I have talked with don’t see the paths overlapping that often. They can, but not usually.
> 
> If the sign is made larger and/or with more repeated wrist flex, it seems to be possible that there is an overlapping path. I had tired to write it like this:
> 
> 
> But it seems that the above spelling isn’t very readable to many people of various SignWriting skill levels. So I tried this option below, and it seems it is more readily understandable.
> 
> 
> So, if I were to follow the same principle and write the straight general movement rather than the curved, I found this is actually more readable than the combined arrows.
> 
> 
> But now for the curve ball! I have asked several people (off the list) what movement they see with that sign. The ones that don’t know SignWriting at all generally said they see a straight down movement and then a curve, which may or may not be repeated. To follow that interpretation of the movement, I wrote this option below. I know that it doesn’t have a wrist flex, but even when I asked specifically if the sign bends at the wrist, I was mostly told it doesn’t matter if it does or not.
> 
> 
> So it seems that the two main options I have found are  and . I would personally go with the first option, but I do see the thinking behind the second one.
> 
> 
> Adam
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2022, at 6:56 AM, Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> Same here. :) 
>> 
>> And I think that's good, because the more often we are of the same opinion, the higher the probability of success with the sign search. 
>> 
>> The exchange is great here! 
>> 
>> Uta
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carlos Cristian Libras <carloscristianlibras at gmail.com> schrieb am Do., 17. Feb. 2022, 00:56:
>> I Like First entries for "signtesseing". I look clean.
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 6:19 PM AnnaGrace Greenfield <msannagrace20 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Adam,
>> 
>> I like the two recent entries for "sightseeing." Thumbs up!
>> 
>> ~ AnnaGrace
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 4:10 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree that the first writing is probably the most accurate, but it just seems to be bigger than the other writings. I just added a couple of other spellings, both with the wrist movement written into them.
>> 
>> https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=3535,11549,11550,11551,11552&sTrm=sightsee&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&
>> 
>> <namesign.png>
>> Adam
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2022, at 10:19 AM, AnnaGrace Greenfield <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Adam,
>>> 
>>> I looked in the links you provided.
>>> 
>>> I like the first entry for "sightseeing." The second one is okay, and I find it acceptable. The third one is understandable, but I like the second one better. :-) 
>>> 
>>> If all three remain in the SignPuddle, then these three serve as an example of sign variations and of how they can be written in slightly different ways.
>>> 
>>> Below is a video link of the sign "sightseeing" being used. It's in timestamp 01:15. I see the wrist action here. I use the wrist action myself. That's why I like the first entry in the SignPuddle. If other signers don't use the wrist flick, then entries two and three in the SignPuddle apply. 
>>> 
>>> Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjazaX9YDS0
>>> 
>>> Well, that's my feedback. Hope this helps!
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> AnnaGrace
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 12:19 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This has been one sign that I have been trying to see what is the best way to write. It has the similar movement as 22 from earlier discussion except that it uses both hands.
>>> 
>>> Here is a video of it for those who aren’t sure of the sign.
>>> 
>>> https://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/SIGHTSEE/12560/1
>>> 
>>> Here are a few different spellings that I have done of this sign in SignPuddle. I am not sure how I feel about them being the best spelling.
>>> 
>>> https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=3535,11549,11550&sTrm=sightsee&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&
>>> 
>>> <namesign.png>
>>> Adam
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