[Sw-l] Scissors Finger Movements

Mon Feb 21 23:56:47 UTC 2022

Hi Adam,

Here's another case of adjusting a bit the [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-21
at 6.28.28 PM.png] grapheme to make it more clear which finger the hinge
moves:
[image: SW DELICIOUS 1 with red arrows.png]

I've also added the touch symbol on the chin area.
Your thoughts?

Thanks,
AnnaGrace

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 6:51 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sure, that works fine too.
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Feb 21, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> Thank you so much for your feedback! It is much appreciated.
>
> As for the spelling for DOG. I like it - but I do have a question about
> the placement of the hinge<Screen Shot 2022-02-21 at 6.28.28 PM.png>
>  grapheme.
> For further clarification on which finger to hinge, I moved the hinge
> grapheme to another location
> to specify which finger to hinge, which is the middle finger, in the sign
> for DOG.
> The red arrow below shows where I relocated it.
> What are your thoughts?
> <Screen Shot 2022-02-21 at 6.24.24 PM.png>
>
> Thanks,
> AnnaGrace
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 5:12 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is a possible writing of DOG with the hinge finger movements.
>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-21 at 2.03.26 PM.png>
>>
>> DELICIOUS
>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-21 at 2.06.18 PM.png>
>>
>> SMOOTH
>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-21 at 2.09.34 PM.png>
>>
>> Hmm… I’m not sure how I feel about the last two. Maybe just doing the
>> ending handshapes would be more readable in this. I must say that DOG looks
>> pretty readable.
>>
>> What are everyone else's thoughts?
>>
>> <namesign.png>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 2:02 PM, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think there is some confusion about the scissor movement. The fingers
>> ONLY move side to side, like scissors. The fingers don’t hinge forward
>> just as they don’t in the image of scissors here.
>>
>> <cut-scissors.gif>
>>
>> So the ASL signs for DOG, DELICIOUS, and SMOOTH would not use the scissor
>> finger movement as the fingers hinge forward.
>>
>> I will be honest that I have never tried writing DELICIOUS or SMOOTH
>> using finger movements. I have with DOG, but our discussion about how to
>> write the sign WHAT-DO or #DO-DO lead me to think of the possibility of
>> using hinge movements for these signs as well. I will try to write them in
>> the next email to show what I am thinking. :-)
>>
>> <namesign.png>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:27 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> There are two signs I can think of that use the scissor movement that
>> starts and ends with a closed position.
>>
>> They are SMOOTH and DELICIOUS. I am attaching the videos for these signs.
>> (In the DELICIOUS video, you can finally get a peek at my face!)
>>
>> For SMOOTH:
>> (This signs starts and ends with a closed middle finger and thumb
>> position. These two fingers slide together using the hinge movement from
>> the middle finger.)
>> <SW SMOOTH 1.png>
>>
>> For DELICIOUS:
>> (This is a composite sign. This is the SW spelling I could come up with.
>> Do you have another SW spelling for this sign?)
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-21 at 11.23.56 AM.png>
>>
>> Chat with you soon,
>>
>> AnnaGrace
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 5:33 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yay, yay!
>>>
>>> ~ AnnaGrace
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 5:31 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That is correct.
>>>>
>>>> <namesign.png>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I understand Adam's recent message. And it makes sense to me.
>>>> My application for that particular signwriting would be "to unfriend
>>>> someone on Facebook." Am I right, Adam?
>>>>
>>>> ~ AnnaGrace
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 5:01 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I doubt it is in SignPuddle. In fact, I wasn’t able to find it in a
>>>>> search.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the spelling as if it were like fingerspelling RV, but with a
>>>>> different palm facing.
>>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-20 at 2.00.26 PM.png>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is how I was thinking of writing it with the scissor movement.
>>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-20 at 2.00.56 PM.png>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can create a video if you would like me to. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> <namesign.png>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> SignWriting List
>>>>> February 20, 2022
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the name of the sign? Is it already in SignPuddle? Or can you
>>>>> show us the sign?
>>>>>
>>>>> —
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 1:34 PM, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can’t think of an ASL sign that would start with an H-handshape that
>>>>> then opens to a V-handshape. But there is one that starts with an
>>>>> R-handshape and then opens to a V-handshape. Would that use the scissor
>>>>> movement, or would that be something else?
>>>>>
>>>>> <namesign.png>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ——
>>>>>
>>>>> <Valerie_Signature_5.jpg>
>>>>> Val ;-)
>>>>>
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>> SMOOTH.MOV><Sign for DELICIOUS.MOV>
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