[Sw-l] The LIddell and Johnson Movement-Hold Model

Uta Meißner uta.hielscher at GMAIL.COM
Wed Jan 26 14:16:25 UTC 2022


Hi all,

I'm interested to know if you guys think of the model when you're
transcribing a gesture. I usually don't. But I think it might be a good
idea to consider this model. Only, I have trouble determining the correct
M-H syllable in some signs.

For a common understanding there are examples:

- Geschwindigkeit (speed):
https://sign2mint.de/entry/Geschwindigkeit/5750242766511595:118

This gesture contains a reduplicated movement -> M +.
Do you see it the same way?

- Default
https://sign2mint.de/entry/Default/8088731661663380:55

This gesture contains a reduplicated movement with hold -> MH +.
Do you see it like this?

Impuls:
https://sign2mint.de/entry/Impuls/5750242766511595:801

This gesture contains a simple movement with hold -> MH

I'm not sure when a hold is when there is a simple contact (*) or when the
movement is stopped (~).

So, now I come to a problem:
Which syllable has this sign?  HMH ? or MH +
https://sign2mint.de/entry/Daten/8088731661663380:40

Which syllable has this sign?
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HMH
or
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MH + but in different places

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or this signwriting. HMH.

Which sign writing do you prefer. Or would you write the sign differently.

I can't tell when the gesture starts. When the right hand already arrives
at the left hand or before.
Is it possible to determine this for sure using The LIddell and Johnson
Movement-Hold Model?

It is important to me that the gesture can be found safely by most users
via signsearch.

What movement symbols would you choose:
There are 5 different movement tracks in signsearch:
- straight motion trace
- wavy motion trace
- angular motion trace
- circular motion track
- spiral motion track

Which sign writing do you prefer. Or would you write the sign differently.

It is important to me that the sign can be found via signsearch.

What movement symbols would you choose:
There are 5 different motion traces in signsearch:
- straight motion trace
- wavy motion trace
- angular motion trace
- circular motion track
- spiral motion track


It is important to me that the sign search works well, that a searched sign
is found with only a few selected symbols. And this is really the case with
many signs. :) We are very proud of this, but we want to make it even
better. :)

I am looking forward to your knowledge and experience. :)

Best regards
and a nice day to all of you

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