[Sw-l] Dynamics and their meaning

Fri Jan 28 21:46:12 UTC 2022

Hi Val and  everyone,

 I will talk about a torso and a tension symbol.  You will see my forest
story (not LSQ, only gesture) on Youtube next week.

A torso twists to the right side.  This symbol is  .

When the torso twists to the right side, it holds in the same position while
I produce many signs.  The tension symbol is placed under a torso (right
side).  This symbol is  .

Here is an example :

A)                        Forest

Sign 1 : Topic
Sign 2 : Forest
Sign 3 : The torso twists to the right side.
Sign 4 : The sun is rising.
Sign 5 : The wind blows strongly.
Sign 6 : Forest 
Sign 7 : The wind blows in the trees.
Sign 8 : River (straight shoulder)
Sign 9 : Water flows quickly in the river.
Sign 10 : Water flows in the river.
Sign 11 :  Water flows slowly in the river.
Sign 12 : The torso twists to the left side.
Sign 13 : The weak wind blows in the trees.
Sign 14 : The weak wind blows.
Sign 15 : The sun is setting.

Click here : 
http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=4&sgn=81&sid=179&sTr
m=Le+for%C3%AAt&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&
<http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=4&sgn=81&sid=179&sT
rm=Le+for%C3%AAt&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&>

Best regards,

André

De :  Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG>
Répondre à :  "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages"
<SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU>
Date :  Fri, 28 Jan 2022 13:08:25 -0800
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Objet :  Re: Dynamics and their meaning

SignWriting List
January 28, 2022

Dynamic Symbols

The Fast Symbol shows speed.... a "quick movement", but there is no tension
involved - it is "evenly done but at a fast speed². See attached the sign
for MUST in ASL:

The Tension Symbol has no connection with "fast" or "slow"...the speed is
normal, but there is a feeling of tension with the movement, or position.

In ASL, (and in other sign languages too), we write Possessives, such as
YOURS, HIS, HERS, THEIRS, with Tension Symbols. It has become a standard way
of writing ³the feeling of possession". A Tension Symbol is placed at the
end of the movement to show the feeling of tension that is establishing
where the person is located, at the end of the movement.  This is
accompanied with a Tension Symbol on the lips to show the feeling of pressed
lips at the end of the movement. The combination of the Tense movement and
Tense lips tells the reader quickly that this is a ³possessive" (ownership).
See diagram attached.

Tension Symbols are also used to "place classifiers"...The Tension Symbol
next to a handshape means "a position held in space² (it takes tense muscles
to hold a hand in space). Because of this, the Tension Symbol became a
"classifier marker" when writing ASL and other sign languages tooŠ

Here are two examples of classifiers by Adam Frost (thank you Adam)

There is so much more to discuss! Hope this is a little helpful, even if it
is for later, when writing sign language sentences and storytelling, it is
good to realize the enormous value of these symbols.

Next I will try to summarize the Timing symbols -

Val ;-)

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> On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:42 AM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG> wrote:
> 
> SignWriting List
> January 27, 2022
> 
> Hi Uta and Steve, and everyone on the SignWriting List:
> 
> Thank you for bringing Dynamic Symbols into discussion. They are very
> important symbols. And Steve has described them so well that you probably
> don't even need more input but I could tell you a little bit about why the
> symbols were developed the way they are.
> 
> Plus there are many documents on the web created by writers discussing Dynamic
> Symbols. For example if you go to signwriting.org <http://signwriting.org> ,
> on the front page, you will notice a search field. Put in the word ³dynamics"
> and search signwriting.org and you will find a long listing of documents
> discussing the use of Dynamic Symbols.
> 
> For example here is a document by Natasha Escalada Westland. Thank you,
> Natasha!
> 
> https://www.signwriting.org/archive/symposium/sws0009_Lesson_11_SignWriting_in
> _Classrooms_2003-2014_Escalada_Westland.pdf
> 
> I will create a lesson on the Tension Symbol and post it soon. You may feel
> you already know it well, but actually the Tension Symbol is one of the most
> dynamc and versatile symols in SignWriting. And its versatility is what makes
> it so useful, for all movement writing...
> 
> Val ;-)
> 
> --------
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 6:00 AM, Stephen Slevinski <slevin at SIGNPUDDLE.NET> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Uta,
>> 
>> I'm making a new thread for this discussion and opening it up to the group.
>> 
>> Category 3 of the ISWA 2010 is the dynamics.
>> Here is the text used to describe this category.
>> 
>> 'Dynamics Symbols are used to give the "feeling" or "tempo" to movement. They
>> provide emphasis on a movement or expression, and combined with Punctuation
>> Symbols become the equivalent to Exclamation Points. The Tension Symbol,
>> combined with Contact Symbols, provides the feeling of "pressure", and
>> combined with facial expressions can place emphasis or added feeling to an
>> expression. Timing symbols are used to show alternating or simultaneous
>> movement.'
>> 
>> <Screen%20Shot%202022-01-27%20at%207.43.39%20AM.png>
>> 
>> The "Tense" symbol adds a feeling to the sign.
>> 
>> The whole sign would need to be considered to understand if the hand stops
>> after movement, or if the hand is moved under tension, or if the hand doesn't
>> move.
>> 
>> -Steve
>> 
>> On 1/26/22 11:51 PM, Uta Meißner wrote:
>>> To the sign ~
>>> 
>>> I know that ~ has several meanings:
>>> 
>>> - Hand stops after movement
>>> - Hand is moved under tension
>>> - Hand doesn't move
>>> 
>>> And I don't like
>>> 
>>> I don't like this fact because it's important because of the sign search
>>> that each symbol has only one meaning. Therefore we decided to choose the
>>> 3rd meaning because that seems to us to be the most important. For 2-hand.
>>> There are 5 properties. One of them is a resting hand. Since the information
>>> is unimportant for own but right hand, we have agreed that symbol ~
>>> property "resting recessive hand" to order.
>>> 
>>> So, now you know my motivation for why we solved it this way.
>>> My feeling tells me it's not a good way to make our own rules.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Therefore, take a step back:
>>> Why does a symbol have multiple meanings? What are the advantages?
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> Uta
>>> 
>> 
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