[Sw-l] Head position symbols

Fri Jun 3 16:12:44 UTC 2022

SignWriting List
June 3, 2022

Thank you, Professor Rubens, for your enthusiastic reading of Cherie Wren’s Cat in the Hat!

Cat in the Hat in ASL home page:
https://www.signwriting.org/library/children/CatHat.html

It is such a beautiful storytelling and transcription - and Cherie Wren did the transcription of her own video too - so thank you, Cherie, for the really super job -

And thank you, Adam, too, for providing us the SignPuddle online videos with Cherie’s signing and transcription - and your voicing and captions - well done ;-)

I am just an admiring bystander to the project - I just posted the PDF and other formats on the web - for example we have another style PDF that is fun too -

Cat in the Hat (different format)
https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs6/sw0517-Cat-In-The-Hat-ASL.pdf

and a web page version:
https://www.signwriting.org/library/children/Cat-In-Hat/index.html

And the document never ceases to amaze me - the enormous detail it provides for writing a narration where the narrator is telling a story and then becoming the characters in the story, and toggling back and forth between narrator and characters….  really wonderful.

Thank you for the great question, Rubens, and I know you also have written storytelling so feel free to share your work as well -

Val ;-)

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> On Jun 3, 2022, at 8:40 AM, Profo Rubens Almeida <rubens.escritadesinais at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> Hello Valerie!
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> Greetings to all SignWriting List members!
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> Thanks for your clarification Valerie, helped me understand the differences in these symbols!
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> It was very clear that the main difference is one of positioning and movement, although it is a subtle difference, it completely changes the meaning of the signed utterance, as it was presented in the ASL video of the children's story “Cat in the Hat”.
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> I confess I didn't know this story, I really liked it❣️🥰🤟🏾
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> Through the video and the excellent job of transcribing the video into the Sutton SignWriting system, it became even clearer.
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> I thought Adam's initiative to edit the video into 30 parts and insert it into SignPuddle Online with the respective transcripts for SignWriting was great! I made prints of the 7 phonemes in which there is the head tilt movement.
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> I leave here the link where we can watch the part of the video number 20 where we find the phonemes in which there is the head tilt movement:
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> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=5&sid=158
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> Again, thank you so much for the support Valerie 😊🌹
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> Hugs!
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> - Rubens Almeida
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> Em sex., 3 de jun. de 2022 às 02:59, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> escreveu:
> SignWriting List
> June 2, 2022
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> The beautiful document, Cat in the Hat in ASL, signed and written by Cherie Wren:
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> Cat in the Hat in ASL
> https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs6/sw0553-Cat-In-The-Hat-ASL-Large.pdf
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> ...includes some of these Head Tilting Movement Symbols. See attached screen capture. 
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>> On Jun 2, 2022, at 10:13 PM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG> wrote:
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>> SignWriting List
>> June 2, 2022
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>> So let us look at the “Movement of Tilting” the Head:
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>> BaseSymbol 515: Movement of Tilting
>> https://www.signbank.org/iswa/302/302_bs.html
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>> Here is a screen capture of those symbols… I have placed numbers to the left of each symbol in the screen capture so you can follow my word desciption…
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>> 1. Movement of “Single-Tilting” - the action of tilting the head to the left.
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>> 2. Movement of “Single-Tilting” - the action of tilting the head to the right.
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>> 3. Movement of "Double-Tilting" the head twice to the left "TILT-TILT"
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>> 4. Movement of "Double-Tilting" the head twice to the right "TILT-TILT"
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>> 5. Movement of “Triple-Tilting" the head three times to the left "TILT-TILT-TILT"
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>> 6. Movement of “Triple-Tilting" the head three times to the right "TILT-TILT-TILT"
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>> 7. Movement of “Alternating Tilts” TILT-LEFT then TILT-RIGHT
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>> 8. Movement of “Alternating Tilts” TILT-RIGHT then TILT-LEFT
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>> 9. Movement of “Multiple Alternating Tilts” TILT-LEFT then TILT-RIGHT many times
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>> 10. Movement of “Multiple Alternating Tilts” TILT-RIGHT then TILT-LEFT many times
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>>> On Jun 2, 2022, at 9:31 PM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG> wrote:
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>>> SignWriting List
>>> June 2, 2022
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>>> Hello everyone, and Rubens -
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>>> Perhaps you have visited the SignWriting HTML Reference Guide, that lists symbols for the Head? 
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>>> Symbol Group 22: Head
>>> https://www.signbank.org/iswa/2ff_sg.html
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>>> I attach a screen capture. This is a listing of the Head Symbols, with a small description for every symbol.
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>>> As you can see in the attached screen capture, when the Tilt Symbol is placed “on top of the circle for the Head", as in Base Symbol 515, it is showing a Tilting “Movement”. It is Head Movement when it is above the Head circle. It is a motion - a real "action of tilting".
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>>> But when the Tilting symbol is placed in the middle of the Facial Circle, as in BaseSymbol 520, it represents a Tilted, static “Position” of the NOSE on the Face.  The tilted nose is “held” in a tilted position that does not move but stays tilted… it is static...
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>>> I am sure you are all wondering…what is the difference? Ha!
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>>> Well, imagine if you want to show touching your nose while your head is tilted and the nose is at an angle … versus a real Head Movement of Tilt-Tilt-Tilt -
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>>> Movements and positions have a slightly different feel, but they are very close… see attached - I will show you some literature next - especially Cat in the Hat in ASL… 
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>>> Val ;-)
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>>>> On Jun 2, 2022, at 11:26 AM, Profo Rubens Almeida <rubens.escritadesinais at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>>>> Hello everyone on the SignWriting List!
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>>>>   I have a question about the difference between these head position symbols: 
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>>>> In fact, I know and use this symbolwhich means the face direction position, nose tilt forward, but putting the two lines above the head instead of the nose will change the meaning.
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>>>> What is the position of the head when using this symbol        then?
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>>>> Thanks for everyone's attention!
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>>>> Hugs!
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>>>> - Rubens Almeida
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