[Sw-l] [x3d-public] PTASL NSM primes in BVH —Help

Jonathan Duncan joyoduncan at GMAIL.COM
Tue May 30 02:17:04 UTC 2023


I think SignWriting should be able to write Protactile ASL.  Can you 
think of any situations where it would be extremely difficult to write?

Yes, it would have to be more then an Avatar for a deaf-blind, you're 
right a robot would be more like it.

Jonathan

On 5/29/2023 7:22 PM, John Carlson wrote:
> Do we have a version of SignWriting for Protactile ASL?
>
> I think we need SignWriting into some kind of motion code, perhaps 
> through robotic actuators.
>
> Imagine Boston Dynamics doing a sign language demonstration.
>
> I’m way beyond dialog with an AI and typical multicast.
>
> Think communication chain reaction, tree reactions, fluid reaction, 
> chemical reaction, gas reaction. The Big Bang of communication 
> starting everywhere in the universe.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 5:15 PM Jonathan Duncan <joyoduncan at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>     Hi John and Joseph,
>
>         I think what would be useful first would be a ChatGPT prompt
>     that could interpret SignWriting into BVH.  Then we could go from
>     SignWriting to avatars.
>
>     What do you think?
>
>
>     Jonathan
>
>     On 5/29/2023 12:16 PM, Joseph D Williams wrote:
>>
>>       * Show me the natural semantic metalanguage primes in
>>         Pro-tactile American Sign Language with motions described as
>>         BVH (Biovision Hierarchy).
>>
>>     OK, BVH gives a hierarchy of actuators and data for each actuator
>>     at some fixed time interval.
>>
>>     For example, one set of data could be the rotation of a wrist
>>     joint over some time interval at some fixed sample times.
>>
>>     Now all you need to do is describe where the joint position and
>>     rotation at the start of the motion, what happens during the
>>     motion and where and when that motion is complete. Next, since
>>     other elements of the hand may change position during the motion
>>     we can deal with other elements of the hand. For instance, in
>>     this motion the index finger second joint bends from relaxed to
>>     straight to 90 degrees to straight then relaxed during the
>>     motion. In other  words, the right hand index finger second joint
>>     does some pitch animation.
>>
>>     Joe
>>
>>     *From: *John Carlson <mailto:yottzumm at gmail.com>
>>     *Sent: *Monday, May 29, 2023 5:30 AM
>>     *To: *David Kaplan <mailto:david at universiti.com>;
>>     SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
>>     <mailto:SW-L at listserv.valenciacollege.edu>; X3D Graphics public
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>>     Working Group <mailto:semantics-public at web3d.org>
>>     *Subject: *[x3d-public] PTASL NSM primes in BVH—Help
>>
>>     Getting this to work would be a great step forward for
>>     accessibility, HAnim, and X3D semantics.
>>
>>     ChatGPT prompt:
>>
>>     Show me the natural semantic metalanguage primes in Pro-tactile
>>     American Sign Language with motions described as BVH (Biovision
>>     Hierarchy).
>>
>>     Anyone?  I can give general English descriptions of PTASL of each
>>     prime in English (or you can retrieve it yourself).
>>
>>     John
>>
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