[Sw-l] png files of all symbols?

Thu Nov 2 16:23:27 UTC 2023

Yeah, I realized they'd be images. It makes everything easier if you think
about it. The first benefit is being able to get the signs into any tool
using a built-in support for images, instead of the whole ordeal of adding
a new font and hoping for some compatibility.

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FSW stands for "Formal Sign Writing", you can think of it as a set of
coordinates or a blueprint to create a sign.

With a FSW string you can recreate a sign container, the symbols and place
them in the right plane, side and "z-index".

All signs have a FSW. I've attached an image to this email, it's a
screenshot from a Libras sign I just researched in signpuddle2. As you can
see, it has a quite big FSW.

You can find more information on it in this documentation written by Steve:
https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3

Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 23:11, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Hi Mr. Ruon and all --
>
> Also, would I be correct that the symbols would have to be uploaded as*
> images* and *not as a font*?
> Just making sure we all are on the same wavelength.
>
> Thanks,
> AnnaGrace
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 10:06 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mr. Ruon,
>>
>> You made an excellent point about Canva's capability to mirror (flip) and
>> rotate the images so that not as many symbols need to be uploaded to Canva.
>> (www.canva.com)
>>
>> I appreciate your help!
>>
>> By the way, what's FSW/code? I'm learning along the way!
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>> AnnaGrace
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 8:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <wallysonruan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, Steve and Anna!
>>>
>>> Since the topic is to upload images to Canva.com, I'm assuming they'd be
>>> treated as such, without any intention of keeping track of their FSW/code.
>>>
>>> If that's the case, I believe that the amount of images reduces
>>> drastically.
>>>
>>> Instead of 16 symbols for each hand, it could be only one symbol per
>>> hand. Image editors allow the users to rotate them, which defeats the
>>> purpose of the 15 extra symbols.
>>>
>>> That being said, I guess it'd be a lot easier to categorize the signs
>>> using human readable names.
>>>
>>> If I'm not wrong, I saw a table dedicated to English names for each
>>> symbol in the sqlite db available in the repository I mentioned earlier.
>>> Wouldn't using them with slightly differences make the work easier?
>>>
>>> Sure, it'd take some time to get there. But, once that's out of the way,
>>> I believe many artworks will show up due to how easy and fast it would be
>>> to put together a lot of signs in both orthodox and unorthodox ways.
>>>
>>> I don't promise anything, but I'll take a look at Canva.com to see what
>>> are its uploading capabilities. Maybe they already have a way for us to
>>> upload many at the same time.
>>>
>>> Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 18:26, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>
>>>> You are right - SVG files are preferable over PNG files for the
>>>> quality. I believe Canva.com accepts SVG files.
>>>>
>>>> Could you please direct me to where I could obtain SVG files from
>>>> https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db?
>>>>
>>>> To make the volume of symbols more manageable, I could accept the
>>>> symbols used in American Sign Language (ASL). If these ASL symbols could
>>>> somehow be categorized into a group or one folder, it would help me
>>>> tremendously in uploading them onto Canva.com. Would that be possible?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>> AnnaGrace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 2:24 PM Steve Slevinski <slevin at signpuddle.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi AnnaGrace,
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep me posted if you find what you need.  I believe all of the PNG
>>>>> images available are of a lower quality that the SVG refinement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db I could write a
>>>>> script to dump all of the symbols into PNG images.
>>>>>
>>>>> For each symbol the command would be:
>>>>> node fsw/fsw-symbol-png S10000 S10000.png
>>>>>
>>>>> Be aware though, there are 37,811 symbol in the ISWA 2010.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/1/23 9:26 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Signwriting List --
>>>>>
>>>>> I use Canva platform to produce anything graphics. If you haven't done
>>>>> so, I encourage you to take a look at canva.com! You can create
>>>>> visual posters, worksheets, flyers, brochures, eBooks, and more!  Anyone
>>>>> can upload any image to use on Canva. There's a free version which offers
>>>>> plenty.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to use Canva to create signwriting documents. I need to
>>>>> upload signwriting symbols to make this possible. That means I would need
>>>>> to upload hundreds of symbols in png files.
>>>>>
>>>>> My question to you on the SignWriting List is, do you happen to have a
>>>>> zip folder of png files of individual signwriting symbols that you can pass
>>>>> on to me?
>>>>>
>>>>> This would save me many, many hours of work.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I can teach you how to utilize Canva for signwriting!
>>>>>
>>>>> With warm regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> AnnaGrace Greenfield
>>>>> A Fan of SignWriting
>>>>>
>>>>>
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