[Sw-l] png files of all symbols?

Fri Nov 3 12:16:23 UTC 2023

Hi Steve, Wallyson, João, and all --

Could you (or anyone else) give me step-by-step guidance on how to download
*svg* files to my laptop from the link provided in an earlier email? Or is
there another source of *svg* files of symbols that I can download to my
laptop?

I can select the symbols among the *svg* files and upload them to Canva
myself. I need them as soon as possible.

I don't expect to upload a boatload of symbols onto Canva (www.canva.com).
Probably 100 symbols at most, because that's what I need for this month.

Many thanks,
AnnaGrace
[image: Screenshot 2023-11-03 at 8.13.03 AM.png]www.canva.com

On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 12:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <wallysonruan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yeah, I realized they'd be images. It makes everything easier if you think
> about it. The first benefit is being able to get the signs into any tool
> using a built-in support for images, instead of the whole ordeal of adding
> a new font and hoping for some compatibility.
>
> -
>
> FSW stands for "Formal Sign Writing", you can think of it as a set of
> coordinates or a blueprint to create a sign.
>
> With a FSW string you can recreate a sign container, the symbols and place
> them in the right plane, side and "z-index".
>
> All signs have a FSW. I've attached an image to this email, it's a
> screenshot from a Libras sign I just researched in signpuddle2. As you can
> see, it has a quite big FSW.
>
> You can find more information on it in this documentation written by
> Steve:
> https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3
>
> Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 23:11, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Hi Mr. Ruon and all --
>>
>> Also, would I be correct that the symbols would have to be uploaded as*
>> images* and *not as a font*?
>> Just making sure we all are on the same wavelength.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> AnnaGrace
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 10:06 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mr. Ruon,
>>>
>>> You made an excellent point about Canva's capability to mirror (flip)
>>> and rotate the images so that not as many symbols need to be uploaded
>>> to Canva. (www.canva.com)
>>>
>>> I appreciate your help!
>>>
>>> By the way, what's FSW/code? I'm learning along the way!
>>>
>>> Thanks so much,
>>> AnnaGrace
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 8:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <wallysonruan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey, Steve and Anna!
>>>>
>>>> Since the topic is to upload images to Canva.com, I'm assuming they'd
>>>> be treated as such, without any intention of keeping track of their
>>>> FSW/code.
>>>>
>>>> If that's the case, I believe that the amount of images reduces
>>>> drastically.
>>>>
>>>> Instead of 16 symbols for each hand, it could be only one symbol per
>>>> hand. Image editors allow the users to rotate them, which defeats the
>>>> purpose of the 15 extra symbols.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, I guess it'd be a lot easier to categorize the signs
>>>> using human readable names.
>>>>
>>>> If I'm not wrong, I saw a table dedicated to English names for each
>>>> symbol in the sqlite db available in the repository I mentioned earlier.
>>>> Wouldn't using them with slightly differences make the work easier?
>>>>
>>>> Sure, it'd take some time to get there. But, once that's out of the
>>>> way, I believe many artworks will show up due to how easy and fast it would
>>>> be to put together a lot of signs in both orthodox and unorthodox ways.
>>>>
>>>> I don't promise anything, but I'll take a look at Canva.com to see what
>>>> are its uploading capabilities. Maybe they already have a way for us to
>>>> upload many at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 18:26, Ms. AnnaGrace <
>>>> msannagrace20 at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>> You are right - SVG files are preferable over PNG files for the
>>>>> quality. I believe Canva.com accepts SVG files.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please direct me to where I could obtain SVG files from
>>>>> https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db?
>>>>>
>>>>> To make the volume of symbols more manageable, I could accept the
>>>>> symbols used in American Sign Language (ASL). If these ASL symbols could
>>>>> somehow be categorized into a group or one folder, it would help me
>>>>> tremendously in uploading them onto Canva.com. Would that be possible?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>>> AnnaGrace
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 2:24 PM Steve Slevinski <slevin at signpuddle.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi AnnaGrace,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep me posted if you find what you need.  I believe all of the PNG
>>>>>> images available are of a lower quality that the SVG refinement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db I could write a
>>>>>> script to dump all of the symbols into PNG images.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For each symbol the command would be:
>>>>>> node fsw/fsw-symbol-png S10000 S10000.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be aware though, there are 37,811 symbol in the ISWA 2010.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/1/23 9:26 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Signwriting List --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use Canva platform to produce anything graphics. If you haven't
>>>>>> done so, I encourage you to take a look at canva.com! You can create
>>>>>> visual posters, worksheets, flyers, brochures, eBooks, and more!  Anyone
>>>>>> can upload any image to use on Canva. There's a free version which offers
>>>>>> plenty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to use Canva to create signwriting documents. I need to
>>>>>> upload signwriting symbols to make this possible. That means I would need
>>>>>> to upload hundreds of symbols in png files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question to you on the SignWriting List is, do you happen to have
>>>>>> a zip folder of png files of individual signwriting symbols that you can
>>>>>> pass on to me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This would save me many, many hours of work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I can teach you how to utilize Canva for signwriting!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With warm regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AnnaGrace Greenfield
>>>>>> A Fan of SignWriting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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