[Sw-l] Question about the direction of movement indicated by the touching contact symbol

[Ms. AnnaGrace]

Hi Profo Almeida,

In the second video on this thread, I would read the SW as “only the right
hand moves and touches the stationary left palm” as indicated in the second
demonstration within the  video.

Cheers,

AnnaGrace


On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 5:57 PM Profo Rubens Almeida <
rubens.escritadesinais at gmail.com> wrote:

> Exactly Adam, regardless of the use of the three movements (movement made
> by the right hand, left hand or both) does not change the meaning. I used
> this example to make sure how to correctly read the writing of the “tempo
> (soccer)” sign with the double touch symbol. Now it has become clear that
> in this case, in the reading process it allows varying different movements
> by not changing the meaning. And in cases where the movement of the sign is
> specific in relation to the dominant hand and the passive hand, I must
> write with the corresponding arrow and not just the contact symbols.
>
> Again, thank you very, very, very much Adam for the clarification!
>
> Signed hugs!
>
> Em sáb., 14 de out. de 2023 às 16:51, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> When writing with only the double touch symbol, any of those movements
>> could be interpreted and acceptable. My question is do those other
>> movements have a difference in meaning? If not, it just becomes a
>> difference in accent, but people will still understand each other. If there
>> is a difference, then you should write it for the difference in meaning.
>>
>> ASL has a sign that is similar to your sign for time, but only the double
>> touch contact symbols would be used because it really doesn’t matter which
>> of the three different movements are done as it doesn’t change the meaning.
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Profo Rubens Almeida <
>> rubens.escritadesinais at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello to all SignWriting List members!
>>
>> I'm here again with more questions for you...
>>
>> The contact symbols: (touch, grasp, between, strike, brush and rub) are
>> part of the movement category, which is why in certain cases we can write
>> movement signals using only the touch contact symbol, without the need to
>> use the arrows. However, if there is a need to highlight the movement
>> performed by the right or left hand, it is necessary to write the arrow
>> corresponding to the correct hand.
>>
>> In the video that I make available via the link below, I used the example
>> of writing the “time” sign in LIBRAS (Brazilian Sign Language) which has
>> movement and we generally write only with the contact symbol touching,
>> without using arrows. But, when we write this way, how should this writing
>> be read? What is the direction of movement indicated by the contact symbol
>> touching the writing of this sign?.
>>
>> Video link:
>>
>> https://youtu.be/VL0T2G5wTQI
>>
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>>
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