[Sw-l] Question about the direction of movement indicated by the touching contact symbol

[Ms. AnnaGrace]

I reference to my previous email, I am talking about the SW with the two
touch symbols (no arrows).

AnnaGrace

On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 7:18 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Profo Almeida,
>
> In the second video on this thread, I would read the SW as “only the right
> hand moves and touches the stationary left palm” as indicated in the second
> demonstration within the  video.
>
> Cheers,
>
> AnnaGrace
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 5:57 PM Profo Rubens Almeida <
> rubens.escritadesinais at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Exactly Adam, regardless of the use of the three movements (movement made
>> by the right hand, left hand or both) does not change the meaning. I used
>> this example to make sure how to correctly read the writing of the “tempo
>> (soccer)” sign with the double touch symbol. Now it has become clear that
>> in this case, in the reading process it allows varying different movements
>> by not changing the meaning. And in cases where the movement of the sign is
>> specific in relation to the dominant hand and the passive hand, I must
>> write with the corresponding arrow and not just the contact symbols.
>>
>> Again, thank you very, very, very much Adam for the clarification!
>>
>> Signed hugs!
>>
>> Em sáb., 14 de out. de 2023 às 16:51, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> When writing with only the double touch symbol, any of those movements
>>> could be interpreted and acceptable. My question is do those other
>>> movements have a difference in meaning? If not, it just becomes a
>>> difference in accent, but people will still understand each other. If there
>>> is a difference, then you should write it for the difference in meaning.
>>>
>>> ASL has a sign that is similar to your sign for time, but only the
>>> double touch contact symbols would be used because it really doesn’t matter
>>> which of the three different movements are done as it doesn’t change the
>>> meaning.
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Profo Rubens Almeida <
>>> rubens.escritadesinais at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello to all SignWriting List members!
>>>
>>> I'm here again with more questions for you...
>>>
>>> The contact symbols: (touch, grasp, between, strike, brush and rub) are
>>> part of the movement category, which is why in certain cases we can write
>>> movement signals using only the touch contact symbol, without the need to
>>> use the arrows. However, if there is a need to highlight the movement
>>> performed by the right or left hand, it is necessary to write the arrow
>>> corresponding to the correct hand.
>>>
>>> In the video that I make available via the link below, I used the
>>> example of writing the “time” sign in LIBRAS (Brazilian Sign Language)
>>> which has movement and we generally write only with the contact symbol
>>> touching, without using arrows. But, when we write this way, how should
>>> this writing be read? What is the direction of movement indicated by the
>>> contact symbol touching the writing of this sign?.
>>>
>>> Video link:
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/VL0T2G5wTQI
>>>
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>>>
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