[Sw-l] Question about mouth gestures

Valerie Sutton sutton at dancewriting.org
Tue Jan 14 15:35:58 UTC 2025


It is BaseSymbol 604 in the ISWA Reference Manual online

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> On Jan 14, 2025, at 7:20?AM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at dancewriting.org> wrote:
> 
> ISWA BaseSymbol 604?
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2025, at 7:17?AM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at dancewriting.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?It is in the ISWA2010 because it?s used in Norway and was requested by Ingvild Roald to write Norwegian sign language and actually is not connected at all with Stefan?s work with mouth movements. I believe if you go to look up the symbols in the ISW 2010 it?s under tongue and mouth and maybe number 630? I am in bed with a bad flu and I don?t have the strength to get up and look in a computer but on my phone I think I found it although it?s awfully small and I?m not sure I will try later but if you can talk with Ingvild Roald, that would help where is the symbol Ingvild?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2025, at 5:33?AM, Honza Fikejs <honza.fikejs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I am not sure if Stefan use is as well, but the mentioned symbol is from your  A Cross-Linguistic Guide to SignWriting p. 133 Adam ;)
>>> 
>>> Symbol S35bb00 says "pushing the lip", so it is different from the origin.
>>> Adam, did you use other set of symbols in the Guide?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Honza
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 2:23?PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> That looks like Stefan?s SpeechWriting. Or is it more specifically Mouth Movement Writing or something like that? There are several symbols that were his own creations that aren?t going to be found in SignPuddle because they are in the ISWA 2010.
>>> 
>>> If I were to try and find a symbol that best matches your description of ?tongue between tight lips?, I would probably use this one:
>>> 
>>>  S35b00
>>> 
>>> What do you think?
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Adam
>>>> On Jan 14, 2025, at 2:06?AM, Honza Fikejs <honza.fikejs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Val and Adam especially,
>>>> 
>>>> actually we are working on mouth gestures description for Czech Sign Language,  but we are struggling writing somes down using SW.
>>>> It seems, some symbols are missing in SignPuddle. I love Adam's guide containing pictures of mouth gesture as well. 
>>>> There is at least one, that I am not able to find in SignPuddle:
>>>> <image.png>
>>>> Some combinations of tongue and teeth are not there as well. Maybe the only way is to compose it from some components?
>>>> Thank you for help.
>>>> 
>>>> Honza
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