[Sw-l] Come and be part of the largest International SignWriting Group in the world! 😍

Wed May 28 05:53:57 UTC 2025

SignWriting List
May 27, 2025

Hello SW List and Olavo!

Below I have pasted the Google English translation of what Olavo said in his last message.

And my answer…

No one person, no matter how idealistic and well-meaning, with all kinds of time on their hands, can “manually" archive a List as busy as the International SW Community Group, which includes TWO Lists - one for the general public and one for the software developers - The SignWriting List has been archived since 1997 and we have THREE Archives - ALL the Archives were done through software programs provided as gifts to us by a University or a programmer who arranged it for us - We have three Archives because we moved the List to different places - all based on who could provide us the Archives.

You can access and search the three archives here:

SignWriting List Archives
https://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/

So I cannot do it personally, and even if you offered, Olavo, I know sooner or later it would become overwhelming for you

So I suggest that we plan on adding a FOURTH ARCHIVE on this Archives page:

SignWriting List Archives
https://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/

The fourth archive will be for the International WhatsApp Group, BUT, someone, a programmer, or a University needs to create a software program to do the automatic archiving for the International SW Community. It must be a computer program -

I predict we will find the angel needed to make this happen - but we have to ask around...

So can you announce this, Olavo on the two WhatsApp groups? Ask: Who can program an Archive of our messages here on WhatsApp? That is automatic and does not depend on Manual work once programmed?

It will be fun -

And thank you for your time and efforts - I bet we will find a solution

Val ;-)

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ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF OLAVO’S MESSAGE BELOW:

Olavo wrote:

"Excellent Valerie!

You are right. Unfortunately, WhatsApp does not have a feature to natively archive conversations so that people who come along later can access them.

However, one way to archive some important information that is sent to the WhatsApp Community is to manually copy and paste it into a Google Docs file, for example, and make the link available to anyone who wants to access it.

Or, if you prefer, manually copy and paste some of this important information into a page on the SignWriting.org website so that anyone on the web can access it by searching for certain words. Maybe this page could be called "WhatsApp Community Highlights of the Week" or something like that.

This could be a temporary solution until we find something better.

What do you think?"

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> On May 27, 2025, at 8:20 PM, Olavo Leal Fernandes <olavoleal90 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Excelente Valerie!
> 
> Você está certa. Infelizmente o Whatsapp não tem um recurso para arquivar conversas nativamente, de forma que pessoas que chegarem depois possam ter acesso.
> 
> Porém, uma forma de arquivarmos algumas informações importantes que forem sendo enviadas na Comunidade do Whatsapp é copiar e colar manualmente em um arquivo do Google Docs por exemplo e disponibilizar o link para quem quiser acessar.
> 
> Ou se preferir, copiar e colar manualmente algumas dessas informações importantes numa página do site SignWriting.org para que qualquer pessoa da web possa acessar ao pesquisar certas palavras. Talvez essa página possa se chamar "Destaques da semana na Comunidade do Whatsapp" ou algo assim.
> 
> Isso pode ser uma solução temporária, até encontrarmos algo melhor.
> 
> O que acha?
> 
> Em ter., 27 de mai. de 2025 às 23:11, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> escreveu:
> SignWriting List
> May 27, 2025
> 
> Dear SW List Members, and Olavo!
> 
> Thank you, Olavo, for announcing the International SW Community WhatsApp Group List to the SignWriting List members.
> 
> SignWriting International WhatsApp List: https://chat.whatsapp.com/GZrHv9OJM6z0ZwYf9uoUwy
> 
> And thank you, Olavo, for doing so much work to build this new International List on WhatsApp, and it is remarkable that you have so many new members so fast, you are right about that!
> 
> The SignWriting List at the moment has around 200 List members, from around 20 countries, but not all of them are active. I agree with you, that the new International SW Community List has more daily activity and I am enjoying being on both Lists.
> 
> It is hard, though, to be on both Lists at the same time, but we will be keeping the SignWriting List going anyway, because the SignWriting List is Listserve software and it has an Archive, where we save and record each message posted to the SW List. The Archives are very valuable and I do not want to lose the Archives, because researchers and students can search the Archives on the internet for information for the future and WhatsApp does not provide an Archive feature.
> 
> There are some members of the SignWriting List who have chosen not to join the WhatsApp group because not everyone can handle too many lists.
> 
> Since I am on BOTH lists, and I manage the SignWriting Listserve along with Steve Slevinski, both groups share us, and also both Lists are very international. At the moment The SignWriting List, which is on Listserve software, has around 200 members from around 18 countries. I believe in time the WhatsApp group will be the biggest, but at the moment they are about equal.
> 
> So I am trying to figure out a way that the SW List Archives can be of help to the WhatsApp SW group, and how the WhatsApp groups’ messages can be archived in another way - this is a work in progress!
> 
> I will keep you informed -
> 
> And I hope that SW List members who have not chosen to join the International SW What’sApp group might re-consider - it is very active if you can figure out how to translate messages faster than I can, it is wonderful to have back and forth conversations the way they have -
> 
> SignWriting International WhatsApp List: https://chat.whatsapp.com/GZrHv9OJM6z0ZwYf9uoUwy
> 
> 
> 
> Val ;-)
> 
> Valerie Sutton
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> 
> 
> 
> > On May 27, 2025, at 4:54 PM, Olavo Leal Fernandes <olavoleal90 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Come and be part of the largest International SignWriting Group in the world! 😍
> > 
> > We already have more than 210 people from 14 different countries in the group:
> > 
> > - Brazil
> > - United States
> > - Israel
> > - Mexico
> > - India
> > - Slovakia
> > - South Korea
> > - Thailand
> > - United Kingdom
> > - Portugal
> > - Honduras
> > - Germany
> > - Jordan
> > - Malta
> > 
> > And even Valerie Sutton herself, the creator of SignWriting, is actively in this group sharing her knowledge and answering questions! 😮
> > 
> > Share the link with your friends from all over the world in the Sign Language groups and let's learn how to register Sign Languages in Written form! ❤️
> > 
> > New link: https://chat.whatsapp.com/GZrHv9OJM6z0ZwYf9uoUwy
> > 
> > ---------
> > 
> > Venha fazer parte do maior grupo Internacional de Escrita de Sinais SignWriting do mundo! 😍
> > 
> > Já temos no grupo mais de 210 pessoas de 14 países diferentes:
> > 
> > - Brasil
> > - Estados Unidos
> > - Israel
> > - México
> > - Índia
> > - Eslováquia
> > - Coréia do Sul
> > - Tailândia
> > - Reino Unido
> > - Portugal
> > - Honduras
> > - Alemanha 
> > - Jordânia 
> > - Malta
> > 
> > E até mesmo a própria Valerie Sutton, criadora da Escrita de Sinais SignWriting, está ativamente neste grupo compartilhando seus conhecimentos e tirando dúvidas! 😮
> > 
> > Compartilhe o link com seus amigos do mundo todo nos grupos de Línguas de Sinais e vamos aprender a registrar as Línguas de Sinais de forma Escrita! ❤️
> > 
> > Novo link: https://chat.whatsapp.com/GZrHv9OJM6z0ZwYf9uoUwy
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Val ;-)

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