[Sw-l] png files of all symbols?

Wed Sep 3 13:57:26 UTC 2025

Hi Steve,
I just found the answer to my question. The last digit in the SVG file name
for a zero-degree handshape angle is "0".
Have a good day!
Regards,
AnnaGrace

On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 9:27 AM Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Steve,
> I noticed in the SVG files, the file name contains a meaning in each
> letter or number. For instance, the first three digits on the file name
> represent the row on the chart of the Sutton SignWriting Symbols. The
> fourth digit represents the column; the fifth digit represents the palm
> orientation; and the sixth represents the direction of the symbol.
> My question is, is there a digit among the file names that represents an
> upright position of the handshape (at a zero-degree angle, to be exact)? As
> you can see in my attached illustration, the sixth digit (in the form of
> a,b,c,d,e, and f) represents all but the 0-degree angle of the symbol.
> If I need to make myself clearer, please let me know. Thank you for your
> help, and I look forward to your next email.
> With kind regards,
> AnnaGrace Greenfield
> [image: SW, HS direction.png]
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2025 at 12:24 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> It worked! Your screenshot helped.
>>
>> Thank you SO much,
>>
>> AnnaGrace :-)
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2025 at 10:52 PM Steve Slevinski <slevin at signpuddle.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi AnnaGrace,
>>>
>>> If you go to the release page.  Scroll down to v2.0.5.  Expand the
>>> assets.  You'll see the iswa_2010_svg.zip file.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/3/25 8:09 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> I'm still working on a project using the SVG files of ISWA 2010 symbols.
>>>
>>> I need to download the file again. I just tried the link you provided on
>>> November 3, 2023, but it seems to have been removed since.
>>>
>>> Could you, if possible, please re-release the zip archive with all of
>>> the ISWA 2010 symbols in SVG format in the https://github.com/sutton-
>>> signwriting/font-db/releases?
>>>
>>> Thanks kindly for your time and assistance.
>>>
>>> With warm regards,
>>> AnnaGrace
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 10:12 AM Steve Slevinski <slevin at signpuddle.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi AnnaGrace,
>>>>
>>>> I have created a zip archive with all of the ISWA 2010 symbols in SVG
>>>> format.  You can download it here:
>>>> https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db/releases
>>>>
>>>> Download the file called iswa_2010_svg.zip
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Steve
>>>>
>>>> On 11/3/23 7:16 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Steve, Wallyson, João, and all --
>>>>
>>>> Could you (or anyone else) give me step-by-step guidance on how to
>>>> download *svg* files to my laptop from the link provided in an
>>>> earlier email? Or is there another source of *svg* files of symbols
>>>> that I can download to my laptop?
>>>>
>>>> I can select the symbols among the *svg* files and upload them to
>>>> Canva myself. I need them as soon as possible.
>>>>
>>>> I don't expect to upload a boatload of symbols onto Canva (
>>>> www.canva.com).
>>>> Probably 100 symbols at most, because that's what I need for this month.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> AnnaGrace
>>>> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-03 at 8.13.03 AM.png]www.canva.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 12:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <wallysonruan at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I realized they'd be images. It makes everything easier if you
>>>>> think about it. The first benefit is being able to get the signs into any
>>>>> tool using a built-in support for images, instead of the whole ordeal of
>>>>> adding a new font and hoping for some compatibility.
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> FSW stands for "Formal Sign Writing", you can think of it as a set of
>>>>> coordinates or a blueprint to create a sign.
>>>>>
>>>>> With a FSW string you can recreate a sign container, the symbols and
>>>>> place them in the right plane, side and "z-index".
>>>>>
>>>>> All signs have a FSW. I've attached an image to this email, it's a
>>>>> screenshot from a Libras sign I just researched in signpuddle2. As you can
>>>>> see, it has a quite big FSW.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can find more information on it in this documentation written by
>>>>> Steve:
>>>>> https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3
>>>>>
>>>>> Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 23:11, Ms. AnnaGrace <
>>>>> msannagrace20 at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mr. Ruon and all --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, would I be correct that the symbols would have to be uploaded
>>>>>> as* images* and *not as a font*?
>>>>>> Just making sure we all are on the same wavelength.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> AnnaGrace
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 10:06 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <
>>>>>> msannagrace20 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mr. Ruon,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You made an excellent point about Canva's capability to mirror
>>>>>>> (flip) and rotate the images so that not as many symbols need to
>>>>>>> be uploaded to Canva. (www.canva.com)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I appreciate your help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way, what's FSW/code? I'm learning along the way!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>>>>> AnnaGrace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 8:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <wallysonruan at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey, Steve and Anna!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since the topic is to upload images to Canva.com, I'm assuming
>>>>>>>> they'd be treated as such, without any intention of keeping track of their
>>>>>>>> FSW/code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If that's the case, I believe that the amount of images reduces
>>>>>>>> drastically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Instead of 16 symbols for each hand, it could be only one symbol
>>>>>>>> per hand. Image editors allow the users to rotate them, which defeats the
>>>>>>>> purpose of the 15 extra symbols.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That being said, I guess it'd be a lot easier to categorize the
>>>>>>>> signs using human readable names.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I'm not wrong, I saw a table dedicated to English names for each
>>>>>>>> symbol in the sqlite db available in the repository I mentioned earlier.
>>>>>>>> Wouldn't using them with slightly differences make the work easier?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure, it'd take some time to get there. But, once that's out of the
>>>>>>>> way, I believe many artworks will show up due to how easy and fast it would
>>>>>>>> be to put together a lot of signs in both orthodox and unorthodox ways.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't promise anything, but I'll take a look at Canva.com to see
>>>>>>>> what are its uploading capabilities. Maybe they already have a way for us
>>>>>>>> to upload many at the same time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 18:26, Ms. AnnaGrace <
>>>>>>>> msannagrace20 at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are right - SVG files are preferable over PNG files for the
>>>>>>>>> quality. I believe Canva.com accepts SVG files.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could you please direct me to where I could obtain SVG files from
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To make the volume of symbols more manageable, I could accept the
>>>>>>>>> symbols used in American Sign Language (ASL). If these ASL symbols could
>>>>>>>>> somehow be categorized into a group or one folder, it would help me
>>>>>>>>> tremendously in uploading them onto Canva.com. Would that be possible?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>>>>>>> AnnaGrace
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 2:24 PM Steve Slevinski <
>>>>>>>>> slevin at signpuddle.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi AnnaGrace,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Keep me posted if you find what you need.  I believe all of the
>>>>>>>>>> PNG images available are of a lower quality that the SVG refinement.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Using https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db I could
>>>>>>>>>> write a script to dump all of the symbols into PNG images.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For each symbol the command would be:
>>>>>>>>>> node fsw/fsw-symbol-png S10000 S10000.png
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Be aware though, there are 37,811 symbol in the ISWA 2010.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Steve
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/1/23 9:26 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Signwriting List --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I use Canva platform to produce anything graphics. If you haven't
>>>>>>>>>> done so, I encourage you to take a look at canva.com! You can
>>>>>>>>>> create visual posters, worksheets, flyers, brochures, eBooks, and more!
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone can upload any image to use on Canva. There's a free version which
>>>>>>>>>> offers plenty.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to use Canva to create signwriting documents. I need
>>>>>>>>>> to upload signwriting symbols to make this possible. That means I would
>>>>>>>>>> need to upload hundreds of symbols in png files.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My question to you on the SignWriting List is, do you happen to
>>>>>>>>>> have a zip folder of png files of individual signwriting symbols that you
>>>>>>>>>> can pass on to me?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This would save me many, many hours of work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And I can teach you how to utilize Canva for signwriting!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With warm regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AnnaGrace Greenfield
>>>>>>>>>> A Fan of SignWriting
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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