The connection between Pyu and Nungish

Daniel W. Bruhn dwbruhn at BERKELEY.EDU
Tue Jun 10 23:19:02 UTC 2014

Hi Nathan et al.,

    Attached is a scan of Vol 12, Appendix 6 of STL, regarding Pyu. I
didn't see much about Nung in there, but maybe it will help reveal his
thought process.


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:19 AM, David Bradley <D.Bradley at>

> Hi
> Krech is completely off the planet about Pyu, he claims it is Shan.
> Pyu could probably be classified better now that we have much more Luish
> data - Sak/Thet, Kadu and so on. I think that is the most likely fit.
> d
> Prof David Bradley FASSA FAHA
> Linguistics
> La Trobe University VIC 3086
> Australia
> ________________________________________
> From: The Tibeto-Burman Discussion List [
> tibeto-burman-linguistics at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of Nathan
> Straub 曹內森 [nstraub at GMAIL.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 1:40 AM
> Subject: The connection between Pyu and Nungish
> Dear all,
> Would anyone know why Paul Benedict said that Pyu was closest to the
> Nung(ish) subgroup? (Sino-Tibetan Conspectus p.196 n.494, and pp.9-10
> n.33.) He cites Robert Shafer's 1943 article in HJAS on the Pyu
> inscriptions, which compares them with Karen, but don't really mention
> Nungish. On p. 196, Benedict compares Pyu tones with Burmese and Nungish,
> but doesn't sound very conclusive there about which language is closer,
> although he says on p. 10 that Pyu is closer to Nungish than to
> Lolo-Burmese proper.
> Uwe Krech has a chapter called "Reassessment of Myazedi Pyu" in Medieval
> Tibeto-Burman Languages IV, which gives a lot of helpful information, but
> doesn't specifically state why Benedict made the connection, either.
> Benedict seems to hint that the answer is in his comparative sketch of Pyu
> in Sino-Tibetan Linguistics, vol. 12, Appendix VI, which as far as I know
> is still unpublished.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Nathan
> --
> We are sent into this world for some end.  It is our duty to discover by
> close study what this end is & when we once discover it to pursue it with
> unconquerable perseverance.
> JQA at age 12 to his brother Charles (June 1778)
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: Shafer-Benedict_1939_STL_v12.2.A6_Pyu.pdf
Type: application/pdf
Size: 389728 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <>

More information about the Tibeto-burman-linguistics mailing list