The connection between Pyu and Nungish

[Nathan Straub 曹內森]

Daniel,
Thanks, that's very satisfying to have. (And thank you everyone else for
your input.) In the off-chance that any of you were interested in Luce's
chapters on Pyu in *Phases of Pre-Pagan Burma* vol. 1, pp. 47-76, here is a
scan of them as well.

Nathan


On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Daniel W. Bruhn <dwbruhn at berkeley.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Nathan et al.,
>
>     Attached is a scan of Vol 12, Appendix 6 of STL, regarding Pyu. I
> didn't see much about Nung in there, but maybe it will help reveal his
> thought process.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:19 AM, David Bradley <D.Bradley at latrobe.edu.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Krech is completely off the planet about Pyu, he claims it is Shan.
>>
>> Pyu could probably be classified better now that we have much more Luish
>> data - Sak/Thet, Kadu and so on. I think that is the most likely fit.
>>
>> d
>>
>> Prof David Bradley FASSA FAHA
>> Linguistics
>> La Trobe University VIC 3086
>> Australia
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>> Subject: The connection between Pyu and Nungish
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Would anyone know why Paul Benedict said that Pyu was closest to the
>> Nung(ish) subgroup? (Sino-Tibetan Conspectus p.196 n.494, and pp.9-10
>> n.33.) He cites Robert Shafer's 1943 article in HJAS on the Pyu
>> inscriptions, which compares them with Karen, but don't really mention
>> Nungish. On p. 196, Benedict compares Pyu tones with Burmese and Nungish,
>> but doesn't sound very conclusive there about which language is closer,
>> although he says on p. 10 that Pyu is closer to Nungish than to
>> Lolo-Burmese proper.
>>
>> Uwe Krech has a chapter called "Reassessment of Myazedi Pyu" in Medieval
>> Tibeto-Burman Languages IV, which gives a lot of helpful information, but
>> doesn't specifically state why Benedict made the connection, either.
>>
>> Benedict seems to hint that the answer is in his comparative sketch of
>> Pyu in Sino-Tibetan Linguistics, vol. 12, Appendix VI, which as far as I
>> know is still unpublished.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nathan
>>
>> --
>> We are sent into this world for some end.  It is our duty to discover by
>> close study what this end is & when we once discover it to pursue it with
>> unconquerable perseverance.
>> JQA at age 12 to his brother Charles (June 1778)
>>
>
>


-- 
We are sent into this world for some end.  It is our duty to discover by
close study what this end is & when we once discover it to pursue it with
unconquerable perseverance.
JQA at age 12 to his brother Charles (June 1778)
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