[Tibeto-burman-linguistics] new data on Kusunda

[Edward Garrett]

Dear Mark,

You attached a scan of field notes to your message. Can you say what they
are? I'm not sure what publication entails, exactly, but it is worth noting
that standards like IIIF make it straightforward to put such scans online
so that they are made available to a wider community than their original
author.

Edward



On Tue, 24 Sep 2019, 04:58 Mark W. Post, <markwpost at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, what you said is that "neither of them *published* their data". Hence
> the misunderstanding.
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Nathan Hill" <nh36 at soas.ac.uk>
> To: "Kristine Hildebrandt" <khildeb at siue.edu>
> Cc: "tibeto-burman-linguistics" <
> tibeto-burman-linguistics at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> Sent: 24/09/2019 12:08:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Tibeto-burman-linguistics] new data on Kusunda
>
> Dear All,
>
> Since my statement has required two "clarifications," let me clarify that
> I said that neither Watters or Donohue had released their DATA. The
> information in a publication cannot be verified unless the DATA is
> released. Also, it is very hard for new research to be done on a language
> if there is not DATA available. Kusunda will be dead in a few years, and if
> no DATA is available on it, then the works of Watters and Donohue will be
> the last things ever written about the language.
>
> Watters is unfortunately no longer with us, so his DATA is probably lost
> forever. As for Donohue, why he is so reluctant to publish his DATA is a
> mystery to me, despite having me asked him myself this question in Sydney
> this summer. Particularly when the public funds research, it is a mystery
> to me why researchers do not want the public to check the accuracy of their
> work and build upon it.
>
> In my original posting I did not make a mistake. Watters and Donohue hae
> not published their DATA and Uday and Tim have.
>
> thank you,
> Nathan
>
>
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> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:32 PM Kristine Hildebrandt <khildeb at siue.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> H again all,
>>
>> I wanted to also just clarify that Mark Donohue's work on Kusunda is also
>> out there in many publications (co-authored with Bohj Raj Gautam and Madhav
>> Prasad Pokhrel), and so Uday Raj and Tim Bodt's publicly released data set
>> can be seen as complementing both David and Mark's published
>> descriptions/analyses:
>>
>> Donohue, Mark, and Bhoj Raj Gautam. 2013. Evidence and stance in Kusunda.
>> Nepalese Linguistics 28: 38-47.
>> http://www.digitalhimalaya.com/collections/journals/nepling/
>> Donohue, Mark, Bhoj Raj Gautam and Madhav Prasad Pokharel. 2014.
>> Negation and nominalization in Kusunda. *Language* 90 (3): 737-745. DOI
>> 10.1353/lan.2014.0054 <https://doi.org/10.1353/lan.2014.0054>
>> Gautam, Bhoj Raj, and Mark Donohue. 2014. Deixis in Kusunda. Nepalese
>> Linguistics 29: 152- 157.
>> http://www.digitalhimalaya.com/collections/journals/nepling/
>> Donohue, Mark, and Bhoj Raj Gautam. 2016. Quantification in Kusunda. In
>> Denis Paperno and Ed. Keenan, eds., Quantification in Natural Language.
>> https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789400726802
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:56 AM Nathan Hill <nh36 at soas.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Colleague,
>>>
>>> I just wanted to let people know about the new data on Kusunda that Uday
>>> Raj and Tim Bodt have publicly filed on Zenodo. Kusunda is a language
>>> isolate with only two speakers. In the last decades some work was done on
>>> it by the late David E. Watters, and my Mark Donohue, but neither of them
>>> published their research data.
>>>
>>> Uday and Tim have now put more than 20 hours of material online open
>>> access, as described in the attached .pdf file.
>>>
>>> very best,
>>> Nathan
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>>
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>> ('Thanks' in Manange)
>>
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