Historical Linguistics [ Magars, Magyars, Mugars, Moghuls, Moghols, and Mogollon]
B. K. Rana
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Fri Apr 22 15:54:06 UTC 2005
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Dear Andrew Shimunek,
Of course, historical linguistics will help. Prof. Suniti Kumar Chatterji in Kirata Jana Kriti: The Indo Mongoloids, Their Contribution to The History and Culture of India [1951] has written that in around 2000 AD the Kunindashs, the mountain people of East Punjab spoke TB languages and contributed to develop Sanskrit language.
Let me compare few Sanskrit words with some other Himalayan languages.
Water is di in central Magar language, ti in Shauka or Byangsi and ri in Kham Magar language. These di, ti and ri are phonetically similar. The central Magar di is prefixed into Sanskrit na+di > river. According to M. S. Thapa Magar nar or ngr means spring in Magar Language. Hence nar+di > na+di > river.
The river names: Bhagi+ra+thi, Goma+ti in Uttar Pradesh, India; Bagma+ti, Ikshuma+ti Indrawa+ti in Kathmandu; Rawa+ti>Rap+ti, Ravi in Punjab India, etc are Sanskritized version.
In Kham Magar language kur means spring. There are some rivers Bhing+ri, Khung+ri in Kham Magar language speaking area.
Water in Kusunda is tang. In Kusunda suta is rope . In Magar language it is sutri and in Sanskrit shutra
Sanskrit ma for mother is mai in Kusunda. The other mahi is for buffalo in both Sanskrit and Kusunda. Kusnuda ajaki [goat], Sanskrit aja[goat] and Chepang mija[goat] are interestingly similar.
House in Central Magar is im in Limbu jhim and in Sanskrit griham.
Nga di gale [East & Central Magar] > I drink water
Nga ri ngawoje [Kham Magar] > I drink water
Chi kadi gaman [ Kusunda] > I eat rice.
Nga kang jyonga [Kham Magar] > I eat rice
Nga chho jyale [ East&Central Magar] > I eat rice.
Nu kadi naman [Kusunda] > You eat rice
Nang kang jyona [Kham Magar] > You eat rice.
Thank you,
BKR
Andrew Shimunek <shenanzhu at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
Some people also like to throw in the Mogollon people
of the southwestern US; but anyone who knows the basic
underlyings of historical linguistics knows this
proposal is ill-advised, as the connection would have
to be 20,000 years or more back in time, and
reconstruction methods are only valid back 5,000 years
or so, or at most, 10,000 years (and this is _really_
stretching it).
Andrew Shimunek
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