existential constructions

[corinna bartoletti]

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Hallo,
I am looking for the correlation between to facts:

1) the possibility of forming subject relative clauses
 without an overt relativiser:

 *The man came here yesterday told me.."

2)the possibility of forming object relative clauses
without an overt relativiser:

The man I saw yesterday

3) The possibility of having an
existential/presentative construction of this
analogous type:

There was a farmer had a dog

Can anyone provide me with examples of languages that
have one, two or all these three possibilities?

Thank you very much,
Corinna Bartoletti
Phd Università di Perugia (Italy)




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> Dear Tatiana,
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> "iru" is for animates. You can say "asokoni inu/neko
> ga iru" [There is a dog/cat].
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> > Dear Prashant,
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> > isn't "iru" for persons?
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> > All the best
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> > > Dear Vyakaran list members,
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> > > Currently a collegue of mine is working on verbs
> > of
> > > existence in Japanese from a historical
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> > > As you know, Japanese makes a distinction in the
> > verb
> > > of exitence according to animacy: the verb "iru"
> > is
> > > used for animates while the verb "aru" is used
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> > > inanimates.
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> > > We are looking for languages which make such a
> > > distinction and would appreciate if the list
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> > > can suggest some references. To the best of my
> > > knowledge Tamil and Sinhalese make such a
> > distinction.
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> > > Thanking you in anticipation,
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Prashant Pardeshi (Kobe University, Japan)
> > >
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