edkeer at YAHOO.COM
Tue Feb 17 14:55:04 UTC 2004
There are a lot of White Castles up in northern NJ.
Some of them must go back to the 70s, since my wife (a
native) ate them in her childhood.
There's also a number of variations on the "White"
theme. The one I recall is "White Manna", which I
think is in Hackensack. There's also a White X
System--I think one in Highland Park on Rt. 27.
Any similar joints in NY?
--- Dave Wilton <dave at WILTON.NET> wrote:
> There's a White Castle in Toms River on Route 37,
> near the Hooper Ave
> intersection. Those who go to the beach in Seaside
> or Island Beach State
> Park pass it on their way from the Parkway. It's
> relatively new (the last
> decade or so). As I said earlier, Toms River was
> devoid of White Castle
> until after I grew up and left town.
> --Dave Wilton
> dave at wilton.net
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: American Dialect Society
> [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf
> > Of James A. Landau
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 3:30 PM
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: slider/Slyder(R), Gut-bo
> > In a message dated Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:20:53
> -0500, "Kathleen E. Miller"
> > <millerk at NYTIMES.COM> writes:
> > > There is a White Castle on the Black Horse Pike
> going down the
> > shore in NJ.
> > > Having grown-up in Indiana it was a new
> experience for me in the early
> > > 80's. Dad, however, had recollection of the
> place going back to the
> > > mid-40's when he would go down the shore with
> Pop-Pop and Nana.
> > There used to be a White Castle on the corner of
> the Black Horse Pike and
> > Noah's Road in Pleasantville, but it closed down
> maybe ten years
> > ago and was
> > replaced by a Goodyear store. Currently there is
> NO White Castle
> > on the Black
> > Horse Pike east of Sicklerville (where the BHP
> meets the
> > Expressway), nor on US
> > 40 nor on US 322 anywhere in New Jersey. The only
> White Castle
> > in New Jersey
> > that I know of is on NJ 27 between New Brunswick
> and Princeton.
> > What the White Horse Pike is noted for is go-go
> > including the one
> > whose marquee reads
> > SEXY SENSUOUS GIRLS
> > now serving lunch
> > If in the 1950's a White Castle hamburger was a
> "slider", did the
> > term derive
> > from the baseball pitch (which did not become
> common in the major leagures
> > until circa 1950)?
> > For what it's worth, I have no recollection of
> coming across the name
> > "Pop-Pop" until after I moved to New Jersey in
> > For the benefit of those not familiar with South
> Jersey, there
> > are two roads
> > running from Camden to Atlantic City. The White
> Horse Pike (US
> > 30) runs from
> > the Ben Franklin Bridge to the "Inlet" (northern)
> section of
> > Atlantic City.
> > The Black Horse Pike runs from the Walt Whitman
> Bridge to the "Downbeach"
> > (southern) section of Atlantic City, and various
> portions of it
> > are numbered as US
> > 40, US 322, NJ 42, and NJ 168. I am told that the
> name "White Horse Pike"
> > came first and is from the name of a tavern on the
> > - Jim Landau
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