Defining "pimp"

[Wilson Gray]

(O.T.) Way back in the 'Fifties, I read a true-life book (perhaps not
exactly the phraseology I'm looking for, but you know what I trying to
say), written by / ghost-written for a white prostitute about her life
in The Sporting Life with a white pimp. Apparently, beating the living
shit out of a woman to break her in so that she can be turned out is
pimp S.O.P., judging by her book. It reminds me of the "seasoning" of
fresh-out-of-Africa slaves or even the "breaking" of horses.

-Wilson

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Jonathan Lighter
<wuxxmupp2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>  Wilson writes, "For any Freudians who care, whores addressed their pimps as 'daddy'
>  and their tricks as 'baby,' whereas tricks addressed the whores as
>  'mama.'"
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>   And in old movies, guys addressed prostitutes as "sister."
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>   Dysfunctional.
>
>   JL
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>  Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>  Back in the day, potential tricks were approached with the question,
>  "Do you wanna date with me?" I interpreted this as "Do you want _to
>  date_ with me?" So, far about a half-century, I thought, "Hm.
>  Interesting construction. Perhaps I can do something with that, one of
>  these days." Then, not long ago, I suddenly flashed on the possibility
>  that the question could just as easily have been, "Do you want _a
>  date_ with me?"
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>  Sometimes, procrastination is the better part of leaping to unfounded
>  conclusions, I guess.
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>  For any Freudians who care, whores addressed their pimps as "daddy"
>  and their tricks as "baby," whereas tricks addressed the whores as
>  "mama."
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>  -Wilson
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>  On 2/20/08, Mark Mandel wrote:
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>  > Ouch.
>  >
>  > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Wilson Gray wrote:
>  >
>  > > A _pimp_, is defined, as quoted by Jesse in his article, as "a person
>  > > who arranges opportunities for sexual intercourse with a prostitute."
>  > >
>  > > Perhaps that should be modified to read, "in Shakespeare's time" or some
>  > > such.
>  > >
>  >
>  > [snip long essay]
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>  > Mark Mandel
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