caron in 1978 and 1967

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Mon Aug 10 15:47:44 UTC 2009

Randy, are you suggesting that Ishida's IPA Character Picker
antedates the 1967 of the U.S> Style Manual?  Or that IPA itself
called this symbol "caron" before 1967?

Or rather that this is an additional sense/use for "caron"?  Ishida
calls it "combining caron" (but in the "latin character picker" of
his "Unicode character pickers" he also calls it "combining caron" --
at least when appearing alone, and not with some letter, when he
calls it just "caron").

(And as I wrote previously, "caron" has been used in the terminology
of ISO character set standards -- thus specifically to refer to the
accent mark, not to a proofreader's symbol -- since at least 1978.)

>United States Government Printing Office, Style Manual.
>Revised Edition, January 1967.
>p. 180, col. 3
>13.19. This list contains the signs and symbols frequently used in
>printing by this office.
>v  caron
>[The symbol has the general appearance of a lower case, sans serif
>v; in the table it, and other accent marks, are not raised.]
>The caron is the last in a list of "signs and symbols", among a set
>of 10 symbols that are in sequence acute, grave, tilde, circumflex
>[note], macron, breve, dieresis, cedilla, caret [note], caron.  To
>my eye, the circumflex and caret symbols are identical.  Whether
>this means that caron is a proofreader's symbol, like caret, or an
>accent, like the other 8 symbols, I have no idea.  "caron" is not
>present in the index to this volume.

At 8/10/2009 11:10 AM, Randy Alexander wrote:
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>I just noticed that Ishida's IPA Character Picker has "caron".
>It's the third diacritic in the diacritic row.  You have to mouse over it to
>see the description.
>And anyway, if you use IPA regularly in docs and emails and don't know about
>this, you should take a look at it.
>On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at> wrote:
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> > Subject:      caron in 1978
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> > One somewhat early source for "caron" is Stanley Rice's "Book Design:
> > Systematic Aspects" (R. R. Bowker, 1978).  But this (page 103) turns
> > out merely to be a reproduction of the U.S. Government Printing
> > Office "Manual of Style"s table of "signs and symbols" , which I
> > reported previously dates from 1976 (and not in any earlier edition
> > of this manual).  Rice does not cast any additional light on the term
> > "caron"
> >
> > However, he does include a table of "Accented Characters (Arranged by
> > language)" (page 105), which includes Bohemian (Czech), Lettish,
> > Lithuanian, Serbo-Croatian, Slovakian, and Slovenian -- for each of
> > which this table shows some letters with a caron accent mark.
> >
> > Joel
> >
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