[Ads-l] to live-tweet

Baron, Dennis E debaron at ILLINOIS.EDU
Sat Jun 10 12:51:47 EDT 2017


1. Interesting how innovations like live-tweet suddenly come with prescriptive rules. Do the dead tweet? Do they tweet if they are grateful? Do the dead tweet only if their souls are not at rest? So metaphysical . . .

2. Since I followed Jesse’s advice and reset the header command in ads-l, all the posts I’ve been getting display perfectly in apple mail. Wonder if this post be come back garbled on people’s screens. LMK.

Dennis

> On Jun 10, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> One difference between “live-tweeting” (or “live-twittering”) an event, whether it’s a movie or a senate hearing, and “tweeting during” an event is that the former makes it clear that the event is the subject of the tweet.  Trump could have tweeting *during* the Comey hearing but if the tweet was about all those illegal votes for Hillary he wouldn’t have been live-tweeting the hearing.  If that’s right, then “live-tweeting during the hearing” would indeed be redundant, but “live-tweeting the hearing” wouldn’t be.
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> LH
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>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:37 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>>> Could I "live-Tweet" about a movie I'm watching on TV? What if it's a
>>> ballyhooed "special event"?
>> 
>> Here is an instance on Nov 22, 2006 of "live-Twitter". This message
>> appeared a few months before the instance of "live tweet" found by
>> Jesse and Dave. This addresses JL's movie question although it was
>> uncertain whether the movie was at a theater or on television.
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/feather/status/103583
>> 
>> [Begin tweet]
>> Derek Featherstone‏ @feather
>> wonders if Jeremy will live-Twitter the movie
>> 12:02 PM - 22 Nov 2006
>> [End tweet]
>> 
>> Garson
>> 
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>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Baker, John <JBAKER at stradley.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I also noted the similarity of "live-tweet" to "live-blog," which I
>>>> presume to be the original.  Live-blogging, or liveblogging, has been
>>>> around long enough that Wikipedia has had an article on it since 2011; from
>>>> 2006 to 2011 "liveblogging" was on Wikipedia, but just as a redirect to
>>>> "blog."  The current version of the article begins, " A liveblog is a blog
>>>> post which is intended to provide a rolling textual coverage of an ongoing
>>>> event, similar to Live television or live radio."
>>>> 
>>>> I looked for early uses of "live blog":
>>>> 
>>>>    As a transparent collocation, it dates at least to this use in the
>>>> Memphis Commercial Appeal (2/26/2004) (all examples via Westlaw):  "While
>>>> you're at it, check out our ongoing live blog coverage of a tour of Delta
>>>> food and blues at http://blog.commercialappeal.com/deltablues/."
>>>> 
>>>>    As a hyphenated term, the Fort Wayne News Sentinel had it on
>>>> 10/5/2004:  "Can't wait for the end of tonight's debate between Vice
>>>> President Dick Cheney and Democratic vice-president candidate John Edwards
>>>> for analysis, commentary and exasperated gripes? Check out Knight Ridder
>>>> Tribune's live-blog site, http://free-fire.blogspot.com."
>>>> 
>>>>    As a verbal phrase, the Washington Times used it on 10/22/2005:  "In
>>>> addition, six "prominent bloggers" of various political persuasions will
>>>> "live blog" the forum via the Internet, their commentary flashed to an
>>>> onstage screen."
>>>> 
>>>> Verbal live-tweet is necessarily younger (Twitter began operation in
>>>> 2006).  Here it is from the St. Paul Pioneer Press (1/16/2009):  "Diablo
>>>> Cody will live-tweet during the "United States of Tara" premiere on Twitter
>>>> (twitter.com/DiabloOnTara)."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> John Baker
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf
>>>> Of Jim Parish
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:48 AM
>>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>>> Subject: Re: to live-tweet
>>>> 
>>>> There's also the related "live-blog".
>>>> 
>>>> Jim Parish
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/7/2017 8:44 AM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
>>>>> It means he will tweet during the event, not waiting until it is
>>>> finished.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017 9:55 PM, "Jonathan Lighter" <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> CNN chyron:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Will Trump Live-Tweet During Comey Hearing?"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's Tweeting in real time, if you see what I'm getting at.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> JL
>>>>>> 
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>>>> truth."
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