[Ads-l] to live-tweet

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Sat Jun 10 13:32:27 EDT 2017


What good is a word with no prescriptive rules?

On Jun 10, 2017 12:51 PM, "Baron, Dennis E" <debaron at illinois.edu> wrote:

> 1. Interesting how innovations like live-tweet suddenly come with
> prescriptive rules. Do the dead tweet? Do they tweet if they are grateful?
> Do the dead tweet only if their souls are not at rest? So metaphysical . . .
>
> 2. Since I followed Jesse’s advice and reset the header command in ads-l,
> all the posts I’ve been getting display perfectly in apple mail. Wonder if
> this post be come back garbled on people’s screens. LMK.
>
> Dennis
>
> > On Jun 10, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > One difference between “live-tweeting” (or “live-twittering”) an event,
> whether it’s a movie or a senate hearing, and “tweeting during” an event is
> that the former makes it clear that the event is the subject of the tweet.
> Trump could have tweeting *during* the Comey hearing but if the tweet was
> about all those illegal votes for Hillary he wouldn’t have been
> live-tweeting the hearing.  If that’s right, then “live-tweeting during the
> hearing” would indeed be redundant, but “live-tweeting the hearing”
> wouldn’t be.
> >
> > LH
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:37 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
> adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >>> Could I "live-Tweet" about a movie I'm watching on TV? What if it's a
> >>> ballyhooed "special event"?
> >>
> >> Here is an instance on Nov 22, 2006 of "live-Twitter". This message
> >> appeared a few months before the instance of "live tweet" found by
> >> Jesse and Dave. This addresses JL's movie question although it was
> >> uncertain whether the movie was at a theater or on television.
> >>
> >> https://twitter.com/feather/status/103583
> >>
> >> [Begin tweet]
> >> Derek Featherstone‏ @feather
> >> wonders if Jeremy will live-Twitter the movie
> >> 12:02 PM - 22 Nov 2006
> >> [End tweet]
> >>
> >> Garson
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Baker, John <JBAKER at stradley.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I also noted the similarity of "live-tweet" to "live-blog," which I
> >>>> presume to be the original.  Live-blogging, or liveblogging, has been
> >>>> around long enough that Wikipedia has had an article on it since
> 2011; from
> >>>> 2006 to 2011 "liveblogging" was on Wikipedia, but just as a redirect
> to
> >>>> "blog."  The current version of the article begins, " A liveblog is a
> blog
> >>>> post which is intended to provide a rolling textual coverage of an
> ongoing
> >>>> event, similar to Live television or live radio."
> >>>>
> >>>> I looked for early uses of "live blog":
> >>>>
> >>>>    As a transparent collocation, it dates at least to this use in the
> >>>> Memphis Commercial Appeal (2/26/2004) (all examples via Westlaw):
> "While
> >>>> you're at it, check out our ongoing live blog coverage of a tour of
> Delta
> >>>> food and blues at http://blog.commercialappeal.com/deltablues/."
> >>>>
> >>>>    As a hyphenated term, the Fort Wayne News Sentinel had it on
> >>>> 10/5/2004:  "Can't wait for the end of tonight's debate between Vice
> >>>> President Dick Cheney and Democratic vice-president candidate John
> Edwards
> >>>> for analysis, commentary and exasperated gripes? Check out Knight
> Ridder
> >>>> Tribune's live-blog site, http://free-fire.blogspot.com."
> >>>>
> >>>>    As a verbal phrase, the Washington Times used it on 10/22/2005:
> "In
> >>>> addition, six "prominent bloggers" of various political persuasions
> will
> >>>> "live blog" the forum via the Internet, their commentary flashed to an
> >>>> onstage screen."
> >>>>
> >>>> Verbal live-tweet is necessarily younger (Twitter began operation in
> >>>> 2006).  Here it is from the St. Paul Pioneer Press (1/16/2009):
> "Diablo
> >>>> Cody will live-tweet during the "United States of Tara" premiere on
> Twitter
> >>>> (twitter.com/DiabloOnTara)."
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> John Baker
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On
> Behalf
> >>>> Of Jim Parish
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:48 AM
> >>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >>>> Subject: Re: to live-tweet
> >>>>
> >>>> There's also the related "live-blog".
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Parish
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/7/2017 8:44 AM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
> >>>>> It means he will tweet during the event, not waiting until it is
> >>>> finished.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 6, 2017 9:55 PM, "Jonathan Lighter" <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> CNN chyron:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Will Trump Live-Tweet During Comey Hearing?"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's Tweeting in real time, if you see what I'm getting at.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> JL
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
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> >>>> truth."
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> >>>
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