[Ads-l] Quote: My cousin Francis and I are perfectly agreed on the subject of Milan; he wants it for himself and so do I

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Wed Mar 15 15:05:17 EDT 2017


Perhaps he said it in German to his horse...

On Mar 15, 2017 2:17 AM, "ADSGarson O'Toole" <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Charles V of Spain and Francis (Francois) I of France fought for the
> control of Milan in the 1520s and 1530s. A professor asked me to
> attempt to trace an interesting quotation about this rivalry that has
> been attributed to Charles V.
>
> The 1853 citation given below is a few centuries too late. Of course,
> early instances might be in Spanish, French, or some other language. I
> tried some queries in the Early English Books Online database but
> found nothing germane. A list member might do better. Are there other
> pertinent databases?
>
> Date: July 1, 1853
> Periodical: The Westminster and Foreign Quarterly Review
> Volume 60, Number 117
> Article: Sects and Secular Education (Review of five books)
> Start Page 112, Quote Page 113
> Publisher: John Chapman, London
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=9p1ZAAAAcAAJ&q=%22of+Milan%22#v=snippet&
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> "My cousin Francis and I," said the emperor Charles V., "are perfectly
> agreed on the subject of Milan; he wants it for himself and so do I."
> The question of leaving Milan alone was not on the tapis. Sooner
> should the whole territory be ravaged with fire and sword, and sooner
> should the throat of every Milanese be cut, than Charles give way to
> Francis, or Francis to Charles.
> [End excerpt]
>
>
> Year: 1866
> Title: Letters on England
> Author: Louis Blanc
> Translator: James Hutton (Translated from French to English)
> Volume 1 of 2
> Letter LV: National Education in England
> Date on Letter: March 2nd 1862
> Start Page 296, Quote Page 296 and 297
> Publisher: Sampson Low, Son, and Marston, London
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=Pk4JAAAAIAAJ&q=%22of+Milan%22#v=snippet&
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> As the Westminster Review very wittily and appropriately reminded us
> the other day, the Emperor Charles-Quint was accustomed to say, in
> speaking of Milan, "My cousin Francis I. and myself understand each
> other perfectly with regard to Milan; he wants to have it, and so do
> I." This is exactly what is said by every sect on the subject of the
> education of children. If Milan perish, Charles Quint will console
> himself, provided Milan do not belong to Francis I.
> [End excerpt]
>
> Garson
>
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