[Ads-l] It was not permitted to pass.

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Mon May 22 21:21:11 EDT 2017


Great observation, Wilson! I always felt the original design rang a bell,
but of just what eluded me!

Speaking of sirens, somebody somewhere opined that the song the Sirens sang
that was so irresistible to Odysseus was the portions of the Iliad that
were about Odysseus.

Or have I imagined that?

I had occasion to discuss the Sheelas in an unpublished paper I wrote some
years back about the bawdy song "The Bloody Great Wheel." Pedantic *and*
offensive!

JL

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:12 PM, George Thompson <george.thompson at nyu.edu>
wrote:

> I'm baffled.
> On Sunday I tried sending you folks a note about Yankee Doodle, with
> downloads attached of three articles from  the Early American Newspapers
> database.  The system told me that the message had not gone through,
> because of the attachments.  I had anticipated that, and had cc'd JL and
> Joel B.
> The first of them was an 1768 passage identical to the 1768 passage taken
> by the OED from a secondary, mid-19th C, source in its entry on Yankee
> Doodle.  The third of the items was a letter/essay signed Shellahnagig,
> which the OED has first from 1844.  All three were reprinted from English
> sources.
>
> Now Wilson's note is responding to a note to me from JL, cc'd to ADS-L.
> Does this mean that somehow the forbidden downloads snuck through with his
> reply?
>
> If not, I would be pleased to get instructions on how to fool the system.
> Failing that, I will forward the passages, or just the 3rd of them, to
> whoever will ask for them.
>
> GAT
>
> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Jonathan Lighter <
> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> > Perhaps you've observed that the OED def. is, shall we say, very
> discreet.
> >
> > About as discreet as the version now used by Starbucks. Apparently, they
> > had no idea at all what that image was a symbol of. There are also
> > continental variants. I came across it first in the journal, _Via
> Domitia_,
> > noted as a former or a current feature of the exterior and the interior -
> > on finials of pews, etc. - of churches in the Midi.
> >
> > The original version used by Starbucks is below, if the system permits it
> > to pass.
> >
> > http://idsgn.org/posts/starbucks-reveals-new-logo-drops-wordmark/
> >
> > --
> > -Wilson
> > -----
> > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> > -Mark Twain
> >
> > --
> > -Wilson
> > -----
> > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> > -Mark Twain
> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> George A. Thompson
> The Guy Who Still Looks Stuff Up in Books.
> Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern
> Univ. Pr., 1998.
>
> But when aroused at the Trump of Doom / Ye shall start, bold kings, from
> your lowly tomb. . .
> L. H. Sigourney, "Burial of Mazeen", Poems.  Boston, 1827, p. 112
>
> The Trump of Doom -- affectionately (of course) also known as The Dunghill
> Toadstool.  (Here's a picture of one.)
> http://www.parliament.uk/worksofart/artwork/james-
> gillray/an-excrescence---a-fungus-alias-a-toadstool-upon-a-dunghill/3851
>
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