[Ads-l] choke up =? emotional

Mark Mandel mark.a.mandel at GMAIL.COM
Mon Sep 10 16:48:44 EDT 2018


This is bizarre. My second paragraph below— at the bottom of this email,
highlighted in yellow— has nothing to do with the video being referred to.
I have NFI ("No idea whatsoever, Your Honor") how it got in there. Maybe it
was still on my clipboard and I accidentally pasted it. With reference to
my .sig line there, I'm pretty sure no other drug was involved. Lack of
sleep, quite possibly.

Mark Mandel


On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 2:23 PM Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Here is Naomi Osaka saying “Your question making me emotional” (
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiHP603v4qo <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiHP603v4qo>, 8:50) after which she has
> to pause in her response several times to stifle tears.
>
> Looking back over this thread (not all emails quoted below), it seems that
> “emotional” is used primarily to refer to situations where you are choked
> up (“verklempt" as Ben Zimmer pointed out in this thread), but not overcome
> with other emotions such as awe, gratitude, horror, resentment, shyness or
> surprise, to name a few from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion>.
>
> M-W meaning three with “emotional sermon” might go beyond the scope of
> verklempt, but it seems unlikely that “emotional” can refer to simply any
> emotion.
>
> Benjamin Barrett
> Formerly of Seattle, WA
>
> > On 10 Sep 2017, at 12:56, Chris Waigl <chris at LASCRIBE.NET> wrote:
> >
> > If you want adjectives, I use words like weepy or teary (usually with a
> > qualifier like "all"), informally; though more often I'd use the
> > corresponding verb.
> >
> > On the original question, I do think that the adjective emotional has
> > different senses in the examples. I'm actually quite fine with how the
> > online version of M-W breaks it down in four senses:
> >
> > ===
> >
> > 1:  of or relating to emotion -- an emotional disorder
> > 2:  dominated by or prone to emotion -- an emotional person
> > 3:  appealing to or arousing emotion -- an emotional sermon
> > 4:  markedly aroused or agitated in feeling or sensibilities -- gets
> > emotional at weddings
> >
> > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emotional
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On 9/10/17 6:48 AM, Margaret Winters wrote:
> >> overcome?
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------
> >> MARGARET E WINTERS
> >> Former Provost
> >> Professor Emerita - French and Linguistics
> >> Wayne State University
> >> Detroit, MI  48202
> >>
> >> mewinters at wayne.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
> Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM>
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 6:15 PM
> >> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: choke up =? emotional
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Barretts Mail wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Is there an English adjective other than “emotional” to describe the
> >>> emotion when you are overwhelmed by, err, emotion?
> >>
> >> Verklempt?
> >>
> >> --bgz
>
>
> On 9 Sep 2017, at 17:49, Mark Mandel <thnidu at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> She's not dispassionately writing a paper. She is overwhelmed by emotion,
> and maybe "emotional" is all the description she could manage at the time.
> Ask her later and you might get a very different and more descriptive and
> conventional answer.
>
> And man, that performance is stunning! If you didn't listen to it, play the
> video from the beginning, or from 1:15 when she comes on stage before the
> judges, or from 2:00 when she starts singing.
>
> Mark
> Music is my drug of choice
>
>
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