qab and faw prefixes-responses

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Date: 29 Oct 1999
From: "N. Heer" <heer at u.washington.edu>
Subject: qab and faw prefixes-response

	I have no idea why Wehr does not include them but they are
examples of modern Arabic words coined by the use of naHt.  Sati`
al-Husari has a chapter on such words in his _Ara' wa-ahadith fi al-lughah
wa-al-adab_, Beirut, 1957, pp. 130-147.  My impression, however, is that
few people use such coinages.
					Nicholas Heer

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Date: 29 Oct 1999
From: "Hammoud, Salah, Civ, DFF" <Salah.Hammoud at usafa.af.mil>
Subject: qab and faw prefixes-response

A possible answer that  comes to mind regarding Alan Kaye's query is that
Hans Wehr opted to leave out truncated prefixes (including those originating
in qabla and fawqa   " before" and "above') which by themselves do not carry
meaning (unless we think of them as mophological components of a larger
whole.  It is only when used in terms such as those Alan mentions that they
mean anything.

Another possibility is that both neologisms he mentions may have been coined
after compilation of the Hans Wehr's dictionary. Even if the concepts are
not new, and neither is naHt,  i.e., carving,  the neology procedure by
which this kind of term is formed, their semantic value as referring to
concepts is at least for fawSawtii "supersonic."

I hope other answers will bear better insight than mine.

Salah

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Date: 29 Oct 1999
From: zmaalej <zmaalej at gnet.tn>
Subject: qab and faw prefixes-response

I checked in Mu?jam MuSTalaHa:t l?ilm wattiknulujiya, and all of the
prefixes in English that keep the prefix are rendered into Arabic as *qabla*
and *fawqa* but not *qab* and *faw*. Some of the items that keep the
prefix -*qabla* as a preposition in Arabic include: preglacial,
prepsychotic, prenatal, preorogenic, etc. Some of the items that keep the
prefix -*fawka* as a preposition in Arabic include: superstandard,
supersonoc inlet, etc. This is probably why *qab* and *faw* are not in
WEHR's Dictionary.

Regards

Zouhair Maalej

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