Arabic-L:LING:Medieval pronunciation of jiim/giim

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1) Subject:Medieval pronunciation of jiim/giim
2) Subject:Medieval pronunciation of jiim/giim
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Date:  27 Jan 2003
From: aziz abbassi <moustique51 at hotmail.com>
Subject:Medieval pronunciation of jiim/giim

There is of course an excellent treatment of the issue by Mike Brame in
his:

"Arabic Phonology: Implications for Phonological Theory and Historical
Semitic"
(Doctoral Dissertation, MIT, Camabridge, 1970)

I found his thesis useful in accounting for a few unusual fixed forms
in Moroccan Arabic that I noted in my own dissertation, e.g. gless for
/jalas/ (sit)
gazzar for /jazzar/ (butcher)
gens for  /jins/ (here race only)
bab al-gisa /al-`ujaysa/ (a famous gate in Fes)
etc.

Hope it's useful.

Aziz Abbassi
Author, Translator
PO BOX 6030
Monterey, CA 93944
(831) 375-5969

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Date:  27 Jan 2003
From: "Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:Medieval pronunciation of jiim/giim

  ".../j/ in Egypt has gone back to the old Semitic /g/...
--Bergstresser, G.  *Into. to Sem. Langs* p. 186 end.

"...zurueckverschoben..."--Fischer, W. & Jastrow. *Handbuch der
arabischen Dialecten*  P.  51 top.

Best wishes,                               Mike Schub

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Date:  27 Jan 2003
From: Mathias van den Bossche <m.vdb at free.fr>
Subject:reply to #2

Thanks for your reply. Are there more information of this
kind (other dialects...) in the book by Bergstresser you
quote above ? And could you send me its complete references ?

Thanks in advance

Mathias

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