New way to transcribe song lyrics?

[Lulu]

Thank you so much, Brian! This is really helpful.

Best,
Lulu

On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 11:58:05 AM UTC-5, macw wrote:
>
> Dear Lulu, 
>     Thanks for re-checking this.  The one thing you probably want to avoid 
> is marking every word in a song with @si.  That would mess up all sorts of 
> other analysis programs.  Using +” at the beginning of each line of song 
> works fine, unless you are really concerned with noting that the material 
> is a song.  I imagine it is pretty clear in most cases.  If  you really 
> want to emphasize that a given stretch of lines is a song, then you could 
> use the <lyrics> [=! singing] format.  If they are very long songs and you 
> need to analyze them specifically, you could even use Gem markers. 
>
> -- Brian MacWhinney 
> Teresa Heinz Professor of Cognitive Psychology, 
> Computational Linguistics, 
> and Modern Languages, CMU 
>
> > On Feb 25, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Lulu <lulu... at gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Dear Brian, 
> > 
> > Thanks for your reply! You are right -- I double checked the manual and 
> found that the parts about songs and singing remained the same in the 
> latest manual. My transcriber thought one part was taken out but was 
> apparently mistaken. 
> > 
> > She used to transcribe lyrics in two ways: 
> > <lyrics> [=! singing] 
> > @si 
> > 
> > But I think you just provided a third way (as quotations) which may be 
> more preferable. The manual also mentioned of treating large chunks as 
> regular speech and put singing in comments. If we are transcribing the 
> morning meetings in preschool classrooms, which way do you think would be 
> the best way to transcribe the singing of the teacher and children? 
> > 
> > Thanks again! 
> > 
> > Best, 
> > Lulu 
> > 
> > On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 7:48:16 PM UTC-5, macw wrote: 
> > Dear Lulu, 
> >      I can't think of any change at any point that was specifically 
> about marking songs.  I think perhaps you are referring to a change made 
> three years ago in the method for marking quotations.  If that is what you 
> are referring to, then there is indeed an easy way of marking that a whole 
> utterance is a quotation.  This is to precede the utterance with +"   Is 
> that possibly what you might be referring to? 
> > 
> > -- Brian MacWhinney, Teresa Heinz 
> > Professor of Cognitive Psychology, 
> > Computational Linguistics, 
> > and Modern Languages, CMU 
> > 
> >> On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Lulu <lulu... at gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Hi! My transcribers just brought to my attention that the new CHAT 
> manual changed the way how song lyrics should be transcribed from the 
> previous manual. Specifically, instead of marking a whole utterance as a 
> verse in a song with a symbol at the beginning and the end of the verse 
> respectively, now the transcriber would need to add a symbol AFTER EACH 
> WORD. The new way seems very labor-intensive. Is that right? Why the 
> change? If it has to be done that way, is there any method to make it 
> easier for the transcriber? 
> >> 
> >> Any insights or tips would be appreciated. Thanks! 
> >> Lulu Song 
> >> 
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