Mark a word as unnecessary

Matteo Fiorini matteo.fiorini at utah.edu
Fri Sep 17 15:25:59 UTC 2021


Hi Nan (if I may), 

the speakers are L2 learners so the extraneous words are mistakes that need 
to be identified and correct. Probably on a case by case bases, both 
solutions can be implemented. 

Thank you very much. 
Matteo
Il giorno mercoledì 15 settembre 2021 alle 14:09:27 UTC-6 nratner ha 
scritto:

> I agree with Brian's suggestions. The only other thing I would add is 
> where these extraneous words arise from - are they reformulations? Who are 
> these speakers? In this case, you might want to use revision markers. Or, 
> if circumlocutions, the disfluency prefix that Brian just supplied.
>
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> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 3:25 PM Brian Macwhinney <ma... at andrew.cmu.edu> 
> wrote:
>
>> Matteo,
>>       It is surprising that we hadn’t already developed a code 
>> specifically for this.  However, it is easy to add a special form marker 
>> for this purpose.  User-defined special form markers begin with the letter 
>> “z”.  It could be @z:ex for extraneous or whatever you wish.  Page 47 of 
>> the CHAT manual describes this and says, "User-defined special forms can be 
>> marked with @z, followed by up to five letters of a user-defined code, such 
>> as in word at z:rftd. MOR will ignore or "skip" the user code and process the 
>> word.”
>>
>> *CHI:   I went to at z:ex swimming to the at z:ex Spain.
>>
>> If however, you want MOR to really ignore the word, you could have
>>
>> *CHI:   I went &to_ex swimming to &the_ex Spain.
>>
>> Because MOR ignores non-words beginning with &.
>>
>> — Brian MacWhinney
>>
>> > On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:23 AM, Matteo Fiorini <matteo.... at utah.edu> 
>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Dear all, 
>> > 
>> > how could I mark a previous word as unnecessary?
>> > The following is an example:
>> > 
>> > Target sentence: I went swimming to Spain
>> > Utterance: I went to swimming to the Spain
>> > 
>> > I'd add a code like [:: _] after the relevant word, signalling it in 
>> the comment line, but I was wondering if there was already an option for 
>> that. 
>> > 
>> > Thank you,
>> > Matteo
>> > 
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