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     I would like to address a couple of the issues about SIL that have
          arisen recently.
	       First, I'd like to say that I am speaking as an individual
          member of
	       SIL and not as an official spokesman. Also I can only speak to
          issues
	       that I am aware of, and obviously I can't talk about what I
          don't
	       know.
	            Matthew McDaniel had some specific comments with implied
          questions
	       that I feel I can respond to.

	            1. First Matthew said, "It is said that SIL and Wycliffe
	            have the same
		         board."

			      They do not have the same board and are separate
			      corporations. The
			           Wycliffe board governs an international
			      group of many national
			           (non-western and western) organizations
			      that relate to the sending
			           groups and individuals in the various home
			      countries. In contrast, the
			           SIL board directs the language work in
			      various other countries. The
			           governing boards are not comprised of the
			      same individuals although
			           each board has a few members who
			      participate in the meetings of the
			           other board.

SIL is composed of individual members who are volunteers, responsible
     for raising their own support. At the individual member level, there
          are people who join Wycliffe but who never join SIL. Other
     individual
          members join Wycliffe and then join SIL. There are also members of
     SIL
          who come from countries where there is no Wycliffe organization to
	       join. Many who join SIL are linguists and do the work of
     linguistics,
          sociolinguistics, applied linguistics, literacy, etc. Others join
     SIL
          in order to support the work of those language workers.

	       2. Matthew also said, "It is said frequently that SIL was made
	       up to
	            take the heat off practices that Wycliffe was engaged in
	       and present a
	            secular face, all the while able to fade back and forth
	       through the
	            wall at will."

		    SIL and Wycliffe were formed and then incorporated around
		    the same
		         time in the 1930's. From the beginning these
		    organizations worked on
		         different tasks in different locations with different
		    audiences. SIL
		         is an organization that supports linguistic work
		    (descriptive and
		         applied) in minority languages of the world and
		    trains people in
		         linguistics. I am a member of both organizations.

			      3. In addition Matthew said, "Maybe someone with
			      specific information
			           on this could reply and possible someone at
			      upper management at SIL
			           could either substantiate or discredit the
			      statement in a book that
			           SIL was organized for this reason and has
			      the same board as Wycliffe,
			           in which case they are not seperate."

				        I'm not sure which book Matthew is
				        talking about. Books have been
					     written criticizing SIL and/or
				        Wycliffe, and books have been written
					     praising SIL and/or
				        Wycliffe. Also both SIL and Wycliffe
				        (separate
					     publishers) have published books
				        about their respective organizations
					     or certain work that  people who
				        belong to the organization have
					     undertaken. It is very easy to
				        find statements of either a pro or con
					     nature about either organization.

					          It is not clear to me from
					          the statement what `this
					          reason' is, and in
						       fact there are many
					          reasons that individuals
					          have found SIL to be the
						       best available vehicle
					          for them to do their
					          language work and serve
						       some minority people
					          groups. I believe that SIL
					          and Wycliffe were each
						       organized to facilitate
					          the particular work that
					          each organization
						       does.

     According to the last part of Matthew's statement, I take it that
          Matthew would be willing to agree that Wycliffe and SIL are separate
	       since they in fact do not have the same board.

	            A little note on which projects SIL attempts to help
	            in. SIL has
		         neither unlimited funds nor unlimited personnel. All
	            of the personnel
		         are volunteers. Each organization determines which
	            projects in which
		         areas it will place priority and which projects it
	            will staff if
		         personnel are available. In working in SE Asia, SIL
	            has cooperated
		         with various universities and other local
	            organizations.

		         In Northern Thailand, we have cooperated with Payap
		         University in
			      training linguists at the MA level, with
		         students from Akha, Sgaw
			      Karen, Pwo Karen, Rawang, Jingphaw, Jirel,
		         Tamil, Hmong, Northern Thai
			      and other language groups receiving training. We
		         also have the Applied
			      Linguistics Training Program, which holds
		         workshops lasting from a few
			      days to a month. There are a variety of foci for
		         the workshops. But in
			      the writers workshops, which focus on creating
		         literature in the
			      writers' various languages, writers from Akha,
		         White Hmong, Blue
			      Hmong, Lisu, Khmu, Rawang, Sgaw Karen, Black
		         Lahu, Lahu Shi, So, Iu
			      Mien, Lua and other language groups have
		         participated. These programs
			      seem at the moment to be good places for us to
		         concentrate our limited
			      resources.

			           So anyway, that's what I know about some of
			           the issues in Matthew
				        questions.
					     Thank you all for listening.
					          Tom Tehan

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						  Author:  akha at loxinfo.co.th
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						  Date:    17-03-99 10:58 AM

						  It is said that SIL and
						  Wycliffe have the same
						  board.

						  It is said frequently that
						  SIL was made up to take the
						  heat off practices that
						  Wycliffe was engaged in and
						  present a secular face, all
						  the while able to fade
						  back and forth through the
						  wall at will.

						  Maybe someone with specific
						  information on this could
						  reply and possible someone
						  at upper management at SIL
						  could either substantiate or
						  discredit the statement
						  in a book that SIL was
						  organized for this reason
						  and has the same board as
						  Wycliffe, in which case they
						  are not seperate.

						  Matthew
						       ... (snipped)

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