E-Prime on a VM
Rick O'Gorman
rickogorman at gmail.com
Sat Apr 18 15:55:34 UTC 2009
Hi Greg,
Well, that's one difference, and I suppose there are different bugs in
the versions of VB for Mac and XP. However, still seems odd. Definitely
went smoothly for me on the Mac host/XP guest using VB. I assume you're
using a recent version of VB (2.1 or better)? Other than that, I'm out
of ideas.
Rick
Greg Osenbach wrote:
> I use Sun Virtual Box. The installer runs fine. I have tried with both
> the install files copied from the CD and a mounted .iso file. when it
> gets near the end of the installation process, The virtual machine
> crashes. I have tried with several versions of vurtual box and on
> several different laptops with the same results. I had actually come to
> the conclusion that for some odd reason, e-prime could not be used in a
> virtual machine. However hearing that someone got it to work, that
> gives me hope to be able to get it running eventually. Although I
> should note that this was an XP virtual machine running in both XP and
> Vista for hosts. Not a mac.
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Rick O'Gorman <rickogorman at gmail.com
> <mailto:rickogorman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> I don't remember any problems with installing E-Prime on my VM per se,
> only with getting it to see the dongle, which was a pain. This was
> partly because I had to learn how to get Virtualbox to allow the guest
> OS (WinXP) to see the USB dongle. The first time I did this, Windows
> also didn't try to find drivers, so I used Aladdin's HASP driver, but
> the wrong kind (but they still worked). The second time (I had to
> reinstall when we upgraded from 2.x beta to 2.x gold) I used the right
> ones. My bootcamp also failed to look for drivers with the beta (a
> pattern?) but did find them for the gold install.
>
> I think both times I copied across the install file rather than just run
> it from the CD--maybe that's a factor?
>
> Are you using VB, or one of the commercial options (Fusion, Parallels)?
>
> Rick
>
> Greg Osenbach wrote:
> > Was there anything special you had to do to get e-prime to
> install in a
> > virtual box virtual machine? I have tried installing it in my
> virtual
> > machine several times and it always crashes during the install...
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Rick O'Gorman
> <rickogorman at gmail.com <mailto:rickogorman at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:rickogorman at gmail.com <mailto:rickogorman at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Liwenna:
> >
> > As an aside to your topic, I also have a Mac. You can get a
> program
> > called Virtualbox (www.virtualbox.org
> <http://www.virtualbox.org> <http://www.virtualbox.org>)
> > for *free* from Sun which does
> > the same kind of thing as Parallels. Its a little more techy
> but I
> > didn't have too much trouble setting it up. You still need a
> legal
> > Windows copy, but probably you can get a discounted copy from
> your univ.
> >
> > I run E-Prime on that setup and it works fine. Getting the dongle
> > recognised was a little tricky, as you have to tell
> Virtualbox to access
> > the USB dongle and may also have to get drivers for it (one
> time I did,
> > the next time I didn't as Windows found some itself, not the
> ones I used
> > previously)--I got them from
> > http://www.aladdin.com/support/hasp/enduser.aspx, using the
> HASP HL ones
> > I think (I tried both options there). It might depend on
> whether you use
> > an individual ddongle, network dongle or no dongle (if that's an
> > option).
> >
> > The E-Prime people (PST) are completely unhelpful in this
> regard, as
> > 'they don't support Macs' which is a total cop-out. They went
> so far as
> > to deny any responsibility to help me with my bootcamp Windows
> > install--even though its running natively and is as
> legitimate a version
> > of Windows as any other. I found that a disgrace and frankly
> has made me
> > keep a firm eye out for E-Prime alternatives, when the chance
> presents
> > itself.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > liwenna wrote:
> > > Hello Frank,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your quick reply! It would be great if you
> could try the
> > > numbers-thing. At my university I can only 'run' the au3
> scripts, and
> > > edit them in notepad, but in order to do that I first need
> to figure
> > > out the language... My guess is that if you get the
> program to run
> > > orderly, editing the code is fare more simple, right? But as
> > said, ICT
> > > guys won't let me. At home I also can't do that as I am
> the proud
> > > owner of a Mac, which I really love but sometimes it's a pain
> > (and yes
> > > I should get myself some parallels).
> > >
> > > I am homeworking today but I'll try the script you posted
> first thing
> > > on monday!
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > liwenna.
> > >
> > > On Apr 16, 8:55 pm, frankbosco <goo... at frankbosco.com
> <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com>
> > <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com
> <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com>>> wrote:
> > >> Hi Liwenna,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for your message. Re: having autoit automatically
> insert
> > >> subject/session numbers, I have not tried this (now that
> I think
> > about
> > >> it, it would be very handy for me)... Perhaps try
> something like the
> > >> following:
> > >>
> > >> To start, you'd need a basic autoit data collection box
> at the start
> > >> of the executable (i.e., before the randomly selected
> .ebs2 files
> > >> begin) - autoit provides a good example of this code in
> one of their
> > >> sample code files (see example file "inputbox.au3") .
> The next part
> > >> (having autoit automatically populate the subject/session
> values) is
> > >> more complicated, but perhaps try something like the
> following:
> > >>
> > >> In the current code, there are lines that include
> (something like)
> > >> "winwait.open; winwait.close" -- you may be able to tell
> autoit to
> > >> wait until the "enter subject #" box appears (by simply
> providing
> > >> autoit with the name of that box, as is done in my
> current code with
> > >> "E-Run"), then have autoit insert a subject/session
> number collected
> > >> at the start (i.e., from the input box in the previous step).
> > You may
> > >> be able to tell autoit to wait until "enter Ss #" box
> appears, then
> > >> code it to press "TAB" (x) times, the value from the
> input box, then
> > >> "RETURN" (these can be done with ASCII code). I know it
> sounds
> > silly,
> > >> but it might actually work...
> > >>
> > >> Tell you what - I'll play around with this idea (very)
> late tonight,
> > >> then send you a code file if I figure it out... For now,
> you can
> > >> download a newer version of the ebs2 call autoit file from my
> > personal
> > >> website: [www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3
> <http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3>
> > <http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3>] -- this version
> > >> includes code to call a few ebs2 files in a determined
> sequence
> > (after
> > >> a series of randomly-selected ebs2 files).
> > >>
> > >> Hope that helps!
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Frank
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 16, 9:56 am, liwenna <liwe... at gmail.com
> <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> It is like magic!!!
> > >>> This is exactly what I need to run my battery of tests.
> Well...
> > almost
> > >>> exactly... except for the random part that is. I am
> trying to
> > get that
> > >>> part out, yet I am experiencing troubles using auto-it as my
> > >>> university ICT guys won't let us install nifty little
> programs like
> > >>> this.
> > >>> Would there be a way to have autoit also insert subject
> and session
> > >>> numbers? Perhaps even make a shiny litle autoit interface
> > wherein you
> > >>> enter subject and session numbers and then run the whole
> everything
> > >>> from that? I'll work on it myself and keep you guys
> informed if
> > >>> something good comes from it, just wondering if you,
> Frank, had
> > >>> allready tried something similar?
> > >>> Greetings,
> > >>> liwenna
> > >>> On Mar 16, 9:00 pm, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu
> <mailto:mcfar... at msu.edu>
> > <mailto:mcfar... at msu.edu <mailto:mcfar... at msu.edu>>> wrote:
> > >>>> Frank,
> > >>>> Wow, this looks really cool, thanks very much for
> taking on the
> > >>>> assignment and writing back. Looks like it will be
> worth my
> > time to
> > >>>> look into AutoIt further, and continue recommending it
> to others.
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
> > >>>> At 3/14/2009 02:21 AM Saturday, you wrote:
> > >>>>> David,
> > >>>>> Thanks very much for your suggestion! I've created a
> script
> > for this
> > >>>>> purpose in Autoit (it works very well). I don't know
> how to
> > attach a
> > >>>>> file in this window, so please feel free to download
> it from my
> > >>>>> personal website (see link below), and share. In the .zip
> > file, I
> > >>>>> have included the Autoit script file, a compiled
> version, and a
> > >>>>> basic .txt instruction file.
> > >>>>> http://www.frankbosco.com/call_ebs.zip
> > >>>>> All the best,
> > >>>>> Frank
> > >>>>> On Mar 13, 10:47 am, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu
> <mailto:mcfar... at msu.edu>
> > <mailto:mcfar... at msu.edu <mailto:mcfar... at msu.edu>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Frank,
> > >>>>>> This question has come up before (e.g.,
> > >>>>> seehttp://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2485-12-1.aspx
> <http://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2485-12-1.aspx>
> > <http://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2485-12-1.aspx>), and I keep
> > >>>>>> suggesting AutoIt
> > >>>>>>
> >
> (<http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3>http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3
> > >>>>>> ). So far no one has reported back on this, and I never
> > have time to
> > >>>>>> try it myself. Perhaps you could give that a try and
> let us
> > all know
> > >>>>>> how it works.
> > >>>>>> Other than that, you might try a good old DOS-style batch
> > >>>>>> file. Also, someone once suggested (sorry, I do not have
> > the link)
> > >>>>>> using links in a .pdf to guide the course of a battery of
> > >>>>>> tests. That would still require some manual interaction,
> > but might
> > >>>>>> help a little.
> > >>>>>> Please let us know what you find.
> > >>>>>> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
> > >>>>>>> Dear E-Prime group,
> > >>>>>>> I am searching for a (presumably) simple external
> > application (e.g., a
> > >>>>>>> small VB-based program) to call several EBS2 files
> to run
> > in a desired
> > >>>>>>> order (preferably random order). I would like to
> > administer a battery
> > >>>>>>> ofexperimentsin a group setting, and am having a
> great deal of
> > >>>>>>> trouble integrating the procedures from each
> separate .ES2
> > file into
> > >>>>>>> one "main" .ES2 file with blocklists (E-Prime support
> > suggested that
> > >>>>>>> my individual procedures exceed E-Prime's
> > copy/pastecapacity, and E-
> > >>>>>>> Prime's automatic renaming of duplicate objects is
> making
> > the task
> > >>>>>>> even more difficult).
> > >>>>>>> Would anyone be willing to share something along these
> > lines? Any
> > >>>>>>> help would be greatly appreciated. I am not very
> familiar with
> > >>>>>>> programming languages.
> > >>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
> > >>>>>>> Frank
> > >>>>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > >>>>>>> Frank A. Bosco
> > >>>>>>> Doctoral Student
> > >>>>>>> Dept. of Management (OB/HR)
> > >>>>>>> Fogelman College of Business & Economics
> > >>>>>>> The University of Memphis
> > >>>>>>> fbo... at memphis.edu <mailto:fbo... at memphis.edu>
> <mailto:fbo... at memphis.edu <mailto:fbo... at memphis.edu>>
> > >>>>>>> Office: (901) 678-4531
> > >>>>>>> Cell: (901) 387-7864
> > >>>>>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > > >
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