E-Prime on a VM

liwenna liwenna at gmail.com
Mon Apr 20 09:13:26 UTC 2009


*small update*

The script to call files in a fixed order is working as properly as
expected. Rick, thank you so very much.
The auto-it forum is offline right now (maintenance) so toying around
with the script to make it give in subject and session numbers will
have to wait.



On Apr 18, 5:55 pm, Rick O'Gorman <rickogor... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> Well, that's one difference, and I suppose there are different bugs in
> the versions of VB for Mac and XP. However, still seems odd. Definitely
> went smoothly for me on the Mac host/XP guest using VB. I assume you're
> using a recent version of VB (2.1 or better)? Other than that, I'm out
> of ideas.
>
> Rick
>
> Greg Osenbach wrote:
> > I use Sun Virtual Box.  The installer runs fine.  I have tried with both
> > the install files copied from the CD and a mounted .iso file.  when it
> > gets near the end of the installation process, The virtual machine
> > crashes.  I have tried with several versions of vurtual box and on
> > several different laptops with the same results.  I had actually come to
> > the conclusion that for some odd reason, e-prime could not be used in a
> > virtual machine.  However hearing that someone got it to work, that
> > gives me hope to be able to get it running eventually.  Although I
> > should note that this was an XP virtual machine running in both XP and
> > Vista for hosts.  Not a mac.
>
> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Rick O'Gorman <rickogor... at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >     Hi Greg,
>
> >     I don't remember any problems with installing E-Prime on my VM per se,
> >     only with getting it to see the dongle, which was a pain. This was
> >     partly because I had to learn how to get Virtualbox to allow the guest
> >     OS (WinXP) to see the USB dongle. The first time I did this, Windows
> >     also didn't try to find drivers, so I used Aladdin's HASP driver, but
> >     the wrong kind (but they still worked). The second time (I had to
> >     reinstall when we upgraded from 2.x beta to 2.x gold) I used the right
> >     ones. My bootcamp also failed to look for drivers with the beta (a
> >     pattern?) but did find them for the gold install.
>
> >     I think both times I copied across the install file rather than just run
> >     it from the CD--maybe that's a factor?
>
> >     Are you using VB, or one of the commercial options (Fusion, Parallels)?
>
> >     Rick
>
> >     Greg Osenbach wrote:
> >      > Was there anything special you had to do to get e-prime to
> >     install in a
> >      > virtual box virtual machine?  I have tried installing it in my
> >     virtual
> >      > machine several times and it always crashes during the install...
>
> >      > Greg
>
> >      > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Rick O'Gorman
> >     <rickogor... at gmail.com <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>
> >      > <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> >      >     Liwenna:
>
> >      >     As an aside to your topic, I also have a Mac. You can get a
> >     program
> >      >     called Virtualbox (www.virtualbox.org
> >     <http://www.virtualbox.org> <http://www.virtualbox.org>)
> >      >     for *free* from Sun which does
> >      >     the same kind of thing as Parallels. Its a little more techy
> >     but I
> >      >     didn't have too much trouble setting it up. You still need a
> >     legal
> >      >     Windows copy, but probably you can get a discounted copy from
> >     your univ.
>
> >      >     I run E-Prime on that setup and it works fine. Getting the dongle
> >      >     recognised was a little tricky, as you have to tell
> >     Virtualbox to access
> >      >     the USB dongle and may also have to get drivers for it (one
> >     time I did,
> >      >     the next time I didn't as Windows found some itself, not the
> >     ones I used
> >      >     previously)--I got them from
> >      >    http://www.aladdin.com/support/hasp/enduser.aspx, using the
> >     HASP HL ones
> >      >     I think (I tried both options there). It might depend on
> >     whether you use
> >      >     an individual ddongle, network dongle or no dongle (if that's an
> >      >     option).
>
> >      >     The E-Prime people (PST) are completely unhelpful in this
> >     regard, as
> >      >     'they don't support Macs' which is a total cop-out. They went
> >     so far as
> >      >     to deny any responsibility to help me with my bootcamp Windows
> >      >     install--even though its running natively and is as
> >     legitimate a version
> >      >     of Windows as any other. I found that a disgrace and frankly
> >     has made me
> >      >     keep a firm eye out for E-Prime alternatives, when the chance
> >     presents
> >      >     itself.
>
> >      >     Rick
>
> >      >     liwenna wrote:
> >      >      > Hello Frank,
>
> >      >      > Thanks for your quick reply! It would be great if you
> >     could try the
> >      >      > numbers-thing. At my university I can only 'run' the au3
> >     scripts, and
> >      >      > edit them in notepad, but in order to do that I first need
> >     to figure
> >      >      > out the language... My guess is that if you get the
> >     program to run
> >      >      > orderly, editing the code is fare more simple, right? But as
> >      >     said, ICT
> >      >      > guys won't let me.  At home I also can't do that as I am
> >     the proud
> >      >      > owner of a Mac, which I really love but sometimes it's a pain
> >      >     (and yes
> >      >      > I should get myself some parallels).
>
> >      >      > I am homeworking today but I'll try the script you posted
> >     first thing
> >      >      > on monday!
>
> >      >      > Sincerely,
>
> >      >      > liwenna.
>
> >      >      > On Apr 16, 8:55 pm, frankbosco <goo... at frankbosco.com
> >     <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com>
> >      >     <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com
> >     <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com>>> wrote:
> >      >      >> Hi Liwenna,
>
> >      >      >> Thanks for your message.  Re: having autoit automatically
> >     insert
> >      >      >> subject/session numbers, I have not tried this (now that
> >     I think
> >      >     about
> >      >      >> it, it would be very handy for me)... Perhaps try
> >     something like the
> >      >      >> following:
>
> >      >      >> To start, you'd need a basic autoit data collection box
> >     at the start
> >      >      >> of the executable (i.e., before the randomly selected
> >     .ebs2 files
> >      >      >> begin) - autoit provides a good example of this code in
> >     one of their
> >      >      >> sample code files (see example file "inputbox.au3") .
> >      The next part
> >      >      >> (having autoit automatically populate the subject/session
> >     values) is
> >      >      >> more complicated, but perhaps try something like the
> >     following:
>
> >      >      >> In the current code, there are lines that include
> >     (something like)
> >      >      >> "winwait.open; winwait.close" -- you may be able to tell
> >     autoit to
> >      >      >> wait until the "enter subject #" box appears (by simply
> >     providing
> >      >      >> autoit with the name of that box, as is done in my
> >     current code with
> >      >      >> "E-Run"), then have autoit insert a subject/session
> >     number collected
> >      >      >> at the start (i.e., from the input box in the previous step).
> >      >      You may
> >      >      >> be able to tell autoit to wait until "enter Ss #" box
> >     appears, then
> >      >      >> code it to press "TAB" (x) times, the value from the
> >     input box, then
> >      >      >> "RETURN" (these can be done with ASCII code).  I know it
> >     sounds
> >      >     silly,
> >      >      >> but it might actually work...
>
> >      >      >> Tell you what - I'll play around with this idea (very)
> >     late tonight,
> >      >      >> then send you a code file if I figure it out...  For now,
> >     you can
> >      >      >> download a newer version of the ebs2 call autoit file from my
> >      >     personal
> >      >      >> website: [www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3
> >     <http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3>
> >      >     <http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3>]  -- this version
> >      >      >> includes code to call a few ebs2 files in a determined
> >     sequence
> >      >     (after
> >      >      >> a series of randomly-selected ebs2 files).
>
> >      >      >> Hope that helps!
>
> >      >      >> Best,
> >      >      >> Frank
>
> >      >      >> On Apr 16, 9:56 am, liwenna <liwe... at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com>
> >      >     <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> >      >      >>> It is like magic!!!
> >      >      >>> This is exactly what I need to run my battery of tests.
> >     Well...
> >      >     almost
> >      >      >>> exactly... except for the random part that is. I am
> >     trying to
> >      >     get that
> >      >      >>> part out, yet I am experiencing troubles using auto-it as my
> >      >      >>> university ICT guys won't let us install nifty little
> >     programs like
> >      >      >>> this.
> >      >      >>> Would there be a way to have autoit also insert subject
> >     and session
> >      >      >>> numbers? Perhaps even make a shiny litle autoit interface
> >      >     wherein you
> >      >      >>> enter subject and session numbers and then run the whole
> >     everything
> >      >      >>> from that? I'll work on it myself and keep you guys
> >     informed if
> >      >      >>> something good comes from it, just wondering if you,
> >     Frank, had
> >      >      >>> allready tried something similar?
> >      >      >>> Greetings,
> >      >      >>> liwenna
> >      >      >>> On Mar 16, 9:00 pm, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu
> >     <mailto:mcfar... at msu.edu>
> >      >     <mailto:mcfar... at msu.edu <mailto:mcfar... at msu.edu>>> wrote:
> >      >      >>>> Frank,
> >      >      >>>> Wow, this looks really cool, thanks very much for
> >     taking on the
> >      >      >>>> assignment and writing back.  Looks like it will be
> >     worth my
> >      >     time to
> >      >      >>>> look into AutoIt further, and continue recommending it
> >     to others.
> >      >      >>>> Thanks,
> >      >      >>>> -- David McFarlane, Professional
>
> ...
>
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