Complex (for me) randomization

David McFarlane mcfarla9 at msu.edu
Tue May 18 22:49:56 UTC 2010


Christophe,

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That said, here is my take ...

This all seems rather simple to me, but perhaps I am missing 
something.  So before I expend any more effort, I need your solemn 
word that you have already worked completely through *all* of the 
exercises in *both* the Getting Started Guide and the User's Guide 
that came with E-Prime.  Or just wait a bit and some more 
understanding soul here may just jump in and answer you.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over 
public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."  (Richard Feynman, 
Nobel prize-winning physicist)


>Thank you for your help! I didn't figure out the problem by myself.
>
>I have a problem with a complex randomization. I would like my prog to
>pick out randomly without replacement a stim from a list of different
>male faces or different female faces at the block level, and than
>conserve this chosen stim all along the individual trials bound to
>this block. And so on for the successive blocks. Ultimately for each
>block, participants would have to rate a face (the chosen stim) on
>different scales (random presentation order without replacement);
>before pursuing to the next block: rating of another face with the
>same scales; etc.
>
>I used some nested lists,  But, until now, my prog selects another
>stim from the female or male faces list for each new trial. This is
>not what I want: I want that the stim chosen once at the block level,
>is used again and again for all the trials bound to this block. When
>this block of trials is over, the prog should start the second block
>and choose another face from the remaining stim of the face list, and
>this face should again be used again and again for all block trials,
>and so on. I can't attach the prog and the stims, but if someone was
>to help me, I could send it.
>
>Best,
>Christophe

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