[gothic-l] Re: Gothic (Langobardic)

[Francisc Czobor]

Hi Dirk,

--- In gothic-l at y..., dirk at s... wrote:
> ...
> Indeed, that is another question that interests me. The exchange of 
 
> "b" for a "p" seems to be a characteristic of both Langobardic and  
> Bavarian and is still clearly noticeable in modern Bavarian. I don't 
> know much about this shift, but would be interested to learn more 
> about it. My hypothesis is that the two languages were very similar 
in 
> the 7th/8th centuries safe for some dialectal variation, which may 
be 
> underscored by the fact that the Langobardic royal house was closely 
> related and of the same origin as the Bavarian ducal house. In fact, 
> the Langobardic royal house was called the Bavarian dynasty.

The shift b>p is part of the second consonant shift, that occured in 
High German and Langobardic. In initial position, however, this shift 
appears in only in "Oberdeutsch" (Bavarian-Austrian, Alamanic, Suabian 
and "Oberfränkisch" dialects) and is not reflected in Standard German 
(for instance, in the Bavarian dialect of Old High German we have: 
pruoder for Bruder "brother", part for Bart "beard", peigira for Bayer 
"Bavarian", etc.).
It is not clear to me whether Langobardic was OHG or not. Some 
classify it as an OHG dialect, others say that initially it was an 
Ingevonic (Anglo-Frisian)-type Germanic language, but, being in the 
neighborhood of OHG, participated in the second consonant shift, but 
in somehow different conditions than OHG.

Francisc


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