[gothic-l] Re: To Dirk and Tore and keth

dirk at SMRA.CO.UK dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Thu Jul 19 12:38:32 UTC 2001


--- In gothic-l at y..., keth at o... wrote:
> Hi Dirk,
> You were just to compare the two texts below,
> that is all.
> 
> >> I saw this by Keth: 
> 
> >> GOTLAND text:
> >> Gutland hitti fyrsti maðr þann sum þjelvar hit. Þá var
> >> Gutland sá elvist at þet dagum sank ok nátum var uppi.
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> ICELAND text:
> >> Gotland hitti [=fann] fyrstr maðr sá sem þjalfarr hét. Þá var 
> >> Gotland són ?elvist at þat dOgum sOkk ok nóttum var uppi.
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> (the first text is Gutlandish from 1350, the second is the same
> >> text translated to Icelandic)
> 
> 
> >
> >I am confused now. Yesterday Keth wrote that I should take the time 
to 
> >investigate some text exerpts that he had posted earlier, saying 
that 
> >they would prove that Gutnish is even closer to Gothic than German 
is 
> >to Bavarian?????? Keth, can you clarify this please?
> >
> 
> You are hard to figure out, Why don't you just look at the texts?
> I wrote at length about it, and this is only the first sentence
> that Professor Arne Torp has translated to Icelandic.
> So the first text is Old Gunish and the second is the same Old 
Gutnish
> text translated to Icelandic. What's the problem?
> 
> Cheers
> Keth

Hi Keth,

I am not hard to figure out. I think the problem is that you jumped in 
with an argument at a point were your were unsure who was really 
arguing what. My reply to Tore was about the similarity or the lack of 
it between Gothic and Old Gutnish and I said that I trust in the 
abilities of Swedish Scandinavianists who indicated that Gothic and 
Gutnish are not more closely related than Gothic and other Germanic 
language and that Gutnish is similar to other Nordic languages.

Then you came up saying in a rather impaciente tone that I should take 
the time to analyse the above similarity between Gutnish and 
Icelandic. Why should I do that. I was already convinced of this 
similarity. I strongly suspect that you mis-understood who was arguing 
what in this discussion. I guess you wanted to post the Old 
Gutnish-Icelandic similarities not to me but to Tore. We could save a 
lot of time and effort by reading postings more thorougly (me 
included).

cheers
Dirk







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