[gothic-l] Re: Crimean Goths ? Where did they up at last ?

[dirk at SMRA.CO.UK]

--- In gothic-l at y..., "Francisc Czobor" <czobor at c...> wrote:
> Hi Leonardo and Dirk,
> 
> --- In gothic-l at y..., dirk at s... wrote:
> > --- In gothic-l at y..., Leonardo "Hernández-Cortez" 
<roderic_711 at y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > ...
> > > Is Crimean gothic(I've read that it's really a dialect
> > > only ) very different from "the original" language ?
> > > Any influences from other cultures(slavs, turks,
> > > greeks...) ?
> > 
> > 
> > Our linguists will have to answer that, but I think the word list 
of 
> > the Flemish ambassador shows influence from other languages 
> > (Alan/Iranic?)
> > 
> 
> In the message no. 427 to the Gothic-L, David Salo posted the whole 
> Crimean Gothic wordlist, together with an excellent analysis.
> Regarding the non-Germanic words found in Crimean Gothic, the 
> following are Iranic:
> sada "hundred" (cf. Persian sad)
> hazer "thousand" (cf. Persian hazâr)
> Probably Iranic is also:
> stap "goat" (cf. Old Persian chabish)
> Probably of Turkic origin is:
> telich "foolish" (cf. Old Turkic teli, Turkish deli)



Hi Fransics,

I seem to remember that telich (een telichten Kerl = a foolish bloke) 
means foolish (toericht) in Low Saxon. I also noted the supposedly 
Crimean Gothic word Wingart, which should be Weingarten in modern HG, 
but is really Wingart in most wine-growing areas in Germany. 

cheers
Dirk

 





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